Brockwell Park news, festival updates and more...

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. pocketbear

    pocketbear Well-Known Member

    Yep, several comments already on the Brockwell Tranquillity page, grudgingly accepting that things are being run more smoothly than they'd feared (though who can blame them after Sunfall). Hopefully those good impressions hold.

    Another quick thought: it really is very loud, but they've been smart in having only one outdoor stage and pointing it back across the park. Hasn't felt that much louder than the Country Show here on Dulwich Road, except when the wind changes and you get a sudden blast of much louder noise.
     
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  2. Ms T

    Ms T Honey-coloured ramparts

    I’m just off Railton and can’t hear anything at all.
     
  3. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    Lots of complaints about dangerous overcrowding on Twitter
     
  4. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    How about this? Allow Lambeth to put on one weekend commercial festival next year on the proviso that it also directly funds the return of the free fireworks display in the park.
     
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  5. madolesance

    madolesance Well-Known Member

    Or funds a free and open to all Country Show. How about both!
     
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  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I thought my proposal was fanciful but yours is the stuff of mushroom bicyles and candyfloss rocket ships!
     
  7. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    Is a pair of free tickets all it took?
     
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  8. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    It's an interesting proposal if you are not a regular park user. But for those of us who use it day in day out, walling the park for four weeks of summer in return for 20 minutes of fireworks does not look like a great trade.

    Given how much Lambeth say is spent at the show, it's not clear why it can't be self financing.

    Could the beloved Lambeth Country Show be self-sustaining?
     
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  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'd like Brockwell Park to have no corporate-owned mega festivals over the summer, but what practical proposals do you have for getting the free firework display back, or is posting up sneery, cheap personal comments the best you can muster?

    As a compromise, I could settle for one smaller weekend festival (with less setting up/taking down time) if it meant that we got the fireworks back. The area needs a proper free community event for people to look forward to in November, IMO.
     
  10. wurlycurly

    wurlycurly diss member

  11. wurlycurly

    wurlycurly diss member

     
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Just to make it clear, I said SMALLER festival. One that wouldn't involve fencing off the park for so long. It's a practical compromise I could accept although I'd rather there be no mega-corp festivals there.
     
  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    FB updates:

     
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  14. Ted Striker

    Ted Striker Foot's on the other hand

    Not sure if there's any where better to put this, but went to Southport Weekender (in London, Saturday only...) in Finsbury park (Not brockwell:p)

    A really really really well executed event. Q to get in 10 mins at peak time, queue for bars properly marshalled and <5 mins. Lots of loos, etc, and, because of the crowd (slightly older house heads) the atmosphere was spot on :thumbs:

    Had whopping fears about a wristband that needed to be charged with cash (basically a token system.but with your wtistband), but even that was relatively painless (tho will reserve full judgement as to how the refunds go back on Tuesday (you have a 48hour window to claim back what you don't need).
     
  15. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  16. aka

    aka Brixton Hill

    It'll grow back.
     
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  17. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    The patches seem very symmetrical. Presumably they're the footprint of some installation/ stage rather than wear and tear from visitors?

    To be fair it does neither look severe not very extensive, I've seen far worse from just foot traffic in wet weather. I'd be very surprised if the Country Show does not cause similar bald patches. Perhaps not a very significant argument to put forward against the event.
     
  18. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    If it were a one off perhaps it would not be a significant argument. But as one of a number of recurring annual events I think it has a huge impact on the quality and nature of Brockwell Park. Remember that for each event large areas are first walled off for about 3 to 4 weeks. After the walls are taken down significant areas are rendered perhaps not entirely unusable but not particularly pleasant to use for a good month to six weeks afterwards.

    Is this a park or a venue? According to Lambeth Events Strategy it is now a major events venue. As such it is allowed to host five events of this scale every year including the country show. And unlimited smaller events of less than 20,000 people such as Found and Sunfall
     
  19. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    I cashed mine in yesterday, you’ve got another 24 ish hours.

    Agreed on all counts, re the event - the average age has got to be mid thirties which makes a huge difference.

    Alex
     
  20. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    as a postscript I note that Reprezent are currently promoting forthcoming live shows from Lovebox in Gunnerbury Park with exclusive interviews and all the razzmatazz.

    I listen to Reprezent now and then and wish them well. I'm pleased a little youth access radio station can tie up with a big festival. But there's a slightly bad taste about lobbying as random members of the public when it later transpires there's somewhat more direct self-interest involved. :(
     
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  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Yes, it left a sour taste in my mouth too, as did their comments on Buzz at the time which were on a similar theme. I was initially going to give them a fair wedge of cash after the Bowie charity gig I did in Brixton, but they blew that. Besides it turned out they're not a charity either.

    But yes, I'm sure some kids really benefit from working with them and I wish them good luck, but I don't like the cut of their jib.
     
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  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  23. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The Great Wall of Brockwell is back

     
  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It's as big and as daunting as the last one

     
  25. jimbarkanoodle

    jimbarkanoodle Well-Known Member

    looks slightly lower, still fucking ridiculous though.

    This week im going to scope out a good spot to shove under/push through/throw over my booze on the weekend.
     
  26. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Update:

    Brockwell Tranquility planning Judicial Review against Lambeth Council’s policy on major events at Brockwell Park
     
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  27. pocketbear

    pocketbear Well-Known Member

    Just for clarity's sake, my point was about the teenagers at the public meeting, who were no more "lobbying" than anyone else there: they're local residents with their own views on whether these festivals should go ahead, and I think the way they were treated at the meeting and subsequently was an embarrassment.

    On the other hand, I'd agree about the other comments from the guy who's actually employed by Reprezent: he made (as I remember it) a fairly brief interjection at the meeting, and a pretty inaccurate comment under the Buzz article, and clearly should have been a bit more transparent in both cases.

    To shift the topic slightly: Lambeth originally promised us a follow-up meeting in September to discuss how everything worked out. Has there been any announcement on when (or if) that's happening?
     
  28. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    Fair enough. Lobbying/campaigning/expressing a view... however you characterise it, the fact remains that the only people at the meeting who spoke strongly in favour of LB subsequently turned out to be part of a small organisation, some of whom got a jolly out of it. Maybe that was coincidental, or maybe the LB/Reprezent connection came about because of the meeting and not beforehand, who knows, it's not a massively important point but it is worth noting in passing. I'd say the same about an objector emphasising local issues who later turned out to be involved with a rival event elsewhere.

    And yes, Lambeth should produce a factual report on both FD and LCS (attendance profiles, environmental impact, crime figures and so on) and there should be a public meeting before any planning for next year begins.
     
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  29. Tricky Skills

    Tricky Skills I demand tea - NOW!

    An FOI for the minutes of the Field Day de-briefing meeting was submitted back on 6 August. Lambeth should legally reply within 20 working days. They haven't even acknowledged the original request yet :(
     
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  30. BusLanes

    BusLanes Pedestrian

    They're getting quite bad with that kind of thing. I'm still working through a complaint I made in April!
     
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