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Brockwell Park news and chit chat

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    I’m not against all events in the park, but the organisers should be paying proper fees (£10;000 for Sunfall!), have to set up and break down in a very timely manner to minimise disruption and face large fines if they cause damage. All of this is standard practice in large event management.
     
  2. shakespearegirl

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  3. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    I feel a bit conflicted over this. I certainly won't be joining the Anti FB group but I do think the whole thing is a bit crap.

    If it's just one year then I have no problem, a temporary festival zone for a few days but if it becomes every year then that's different.

    As many old school brixton folk will remember the park is a great venue for events. My first experience was walking over the hill to an anti-racist rock gig back in the early 90s. Being young I couldn't quite believe it.

    Flip fwd to 2017 and these festivals are all about rinsing people out of every last £. Perhaps not because the organisers want to but because the bills to do these things have gone up with authoritarian demands. London is a great musical city and I don't want people to miss out but is this really the best way to celebrate it.

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  4. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They were bloody great gigs, but they were (a) free and (b) for a good cause.

    These are just for corporate profit, and they'll be interrupting the peace of the park for weeks and weeks.
     
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  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Haven't had time to check any of this, so I'll just quote it from FB:

     
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  6. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    With all the planned events in the park for the coming year, Lambeth should at least have the decency to use some of the cash raised to make the November fireworks free entry again.
     
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  7. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    They were very up front about wanting it to be every year. Both FD and Lambeth talking about building long term relationships.
     
  8. editor

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  9. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    They've started selling tickets according to a post on the FB group...
     
  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    That's a bit previous given that their press release says, "We will fully consult residents and stakeholders and feedback we receive will form part of our Licence application process."
     
  11. I think they mean that they're consulting on the running of it, rather than if it will happen - they're definitely selling tickets now.

    Anyway, I know that there are negative aspects to it, but personally I am excited to have festivals that I'll probably want to go to on the doorstep.
     
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  12. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    It's possible to have a bit of cognitive dissonance on it - I live next door, so will have no choice but to hear it, and may probably enjoy some of the music. Doesn't mean that the process by which Lambeth decide* to award a licence, or the way that the park is treated gets to be ignored.

    *and that looks like it's already an informal done deal.
     
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  13. Twattor

    Twattor Well-Known Member

    I didn't mind the festivals on clapham common as it is a soulless dust bowl and there is plenty of space left over. I feel differently about brockwell.

    as Pastor Niemoller might have put it: first they came for clapham common and i did not speak out - because I am not of clapham...
     
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  14. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

    I suspect that the Field Day application may well fizzle out. The festival that took their spot in Victoria Park announced their line up today and it's pretty unbeatable.

    Nick Cave
    Patti Smith
    St Vincent
    Courtney Barnett

    plus loads more bands TBA across three stages. On Sun June 3rd, with The National playing on the 2nd. Field Day is meant to be happening the same weekend, but all the Field Day people will be going to Nick Cave/The National I reckon.
     
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  15. Horses for courses though, I can see that line-up not appealing to a lot of people.
     
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  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    There's plenty of other amazing bands playing live that could easily make up a bill to match or surpass that one, IMO.
     
  17. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It turns out that the decision to host the events is definitely NOT already decided.

    This is what Jim Dickson, Herne Hill ward councillor said:
     
  18. jimbarkanoodle

    jimbarkanoodle Well-Known Member

    Field day is a very popular festival that has been running for years. there are more than enough people to go around to support 2 big day festivals on the same day. Although saying that, i always felt the crowd at Field Day was largely made up of trendy knob heads from East London, which might not be particularly arsed to travel down the Victoria line for Field Day.
     
  19. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Bear in mind that Jim Dickson's day job is as a spin doctor for a corporate consultancy (and used to be leader of the council). Whilst no final decisions have been made he will be very aware that some level of assurances will have been given behind the scenes in order for either of the events to have started selling tickets or talking about their new home.

    I don't know what he thinks abouts Field Day, Love Box et al but I am conscious that he smoothes things like this through the political process for a living. So his "the consultation process is progressing as it should and the two organisers are being very cooperative" response should be treated with caution.
     
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  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Lambeth hands over the park for peanuts and the rich fucker gets even richer:

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    Desmond nets €5.4m in UK dividend

    And: British Festival Promoter Calls for Investigation Into Live Nation Control of U.K. Festival Market - Amplify
     
  21. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  23. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

    Yes, but I'm talking about a bill that would appeal to the Field Day crowd. It's almost as if the new festival has gone out of its way to book Field Day type bands.
     
  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    From FB for people who don't understand why some businesses are annoyed with Lambeth bringing in seasonal stalls into the park:

     
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  25. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    Does anyone have any numbers? How much was Lambeth paid, and how many people attended, Sunfall and the fireworks? How much will the new events be charged and what will the attendance limits be?
     
  26. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    As a glimpse of a possible future, it's worth noting that Newcastle is in the process of hiving their parks off. As a non-statutory council function they're getting rid of public grief such as this. Once the parks become an arms length away councillors can ignore future controversies.

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  27. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus



    *unless there's a ruddy great commercial festival taking place, of course.
     
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    How's this for some bollocks (from FB group)

     
  29. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Statement from FOBP:

     
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It's blooming big:

     

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