Brixton's oldest House???
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boohoo
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Was out in the biplane again today and took these photos which show things a little more clearly:
ohhhh... nice shots... Nice to get a better view of the house and camping shops. House has similar roof style to Water Lane old houses.
please can your biplane get a shot over reliance arcade and by herne hill station too ... I'm on a mission for some buildings.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
where are you getting these pictures from teuchter?
Yeah I know the quality isn't great; they are just from my cameraphone. It's quite hard to steer the plane with one hand and take photos with the other, you know.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
That's still Brixton really
boohoo
No.
I think that you might find that the citizens of 1786 Stockwell would tell you that Brixton is a few houses around Rush Common. Stockwell exisited when Brixton central was all fields.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Fascinating fact that you'd never guess in a million years - I happen to live directly on top of the old Stockwell village green.
I can remember the days, back before the wannabes arrived, when I could look out of my window, over towards "Brixton", and see nothing but a few stray pigs, a bit of marshland and a pound shop.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Is that the triangle of buildings sort of opposite the surgery, by the junction with Landor Rd? One of the streets there is called "Stockwell Green" isn't it?
boohoo
No.
Fascinating fact that you'd never guess in a million years - I happen to live directly on top of the old Stockwell village green.
I can remember the days, back before the wannabes arrived, when I could look out of my window, over towards "Brixton", and see nothing but a few stray pigs, a bit of marshland and a pound shop.
what year was the green built on then?
I now know what that building is that's opposite your kitchen window with the crazy people that aren't you outside....
I believe this is the place....
On the opposite side of Stockwell Green from the Congregational Church stands a building in Jacobean style now used for commercial purposes. It was opened on March 8, 1848 as an Educational Institute at the expense of the congregation of Stockwell New Chapel.
From: 'Stockwell: Stockwell Park Crescent and Stockwell Green areas', Survey of London: volume 26: Lambeth: Southern area (1956), pp. 88-95. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=49765 Date accessed: 14 January 2009.
boohoo
No.
Yes... and a lovely selection of late 18th buildings including the 2nd oldest church in Lambeth...
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
So this part of London isn't very old then, really, is it?
boohoo
No.
Nahh... and I was wrong about queen's row - it's not the oldest stockwell stuff - it's the buildings in front of the YMCA -1781 to 1788 - I only recently found out they were that old.
Those old houses on Brixton road (309-313), I presume these are the ones by Villa Road , are dated 1801-2.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
In Leeds, there are loads of 17th/16th century buildings - I worked in a hotel/conference centre that had part of it dating from 1540
boohoo
No.
Elizabeth the first came to have tea in stockwell in 1587 so there has been settlements (although of the large manor house type) during that period.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Basically - it's the triangle formed by Stockwell Green road, Stockwell Gardens road and Stockwell road itself.
Oddly, Google maps shows Landor road going right the way up to the main road, when it actually stops at the junction of where Stockwell Green / Stockwell Gardens starts:
Wrong: http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.468138,-0.119015&spn=0.004237,0.009656&z=17
Right: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=530737&Y=176042&A=Y&Z=106
boohoo
No.
He's not much fun to stalk - goes to work....stays there a long time...returns home.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
My local pub when I was a nipper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mug_House
Built sometime around 1400.
I love the way you London folk think that something built in the 18th century is "old"...
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
You'd know - having stalked me extensively!!He's not much fun to stalk - goes to work....stays there a long time...returns home.
Go on, tell the boys & girls it was all an innocent "coincidence", you just happened to be outside my door at all hours of the day & night, just waiting to pounce like some tightly coiled cobra!!
boohoo
No.
You'd know - having stalked me extensively!!
Go on, tell the boys & girls it was all an innocent "coincidence", you just happened to be outside my door at all hours of the day & night, just waiting to pounce like some tightly coiled cobra!!
It was going back and forth on the bus trying to peer into your window that really wore me out...
(Anyway, I've only bumped into you a few time outside your house...
)
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Basically - it's the triangle formed by Stockwell Green road, Stockwell Gardens road and Stockwell road itself.
Oddly, Google maps shows Landor road going right the way up to the main road, when it actually stops at the junction of where Stockwell Green / Stockwell Gardens starts:
Wrong: http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&ll=51.468138,-0.119015&spn=0.004237,0.009656&z=17
Right: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=530737&Y=176042&A=Y&Z=106
It's Stockwell Concrete really, isn't it?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
My local pub when I was a nipper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mug_House
Built sometime around 1400.
I love the way you London folk think that something built in the 18th century is "old"...
http://www.pubs.com/pub_details.cfm?ID=216
boohoo
No.
An earlier pub (though not a pub at the mo) is the wig and pen (or is it pen and wig) on the strand... lovely pre-fire timber frame
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
That doesn't look very old!
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
He's not much fun to stalk - goes to work....stays there a long time...returns home.
I'll stick to teuchter and minnie then.
boohoo
No.
Info from images of England site:
Q 3181 SW CITY OF WESTMINSTER STRAND, WC2 61/18 24.2.58 No 229 G.V. II* Terraced house with shop. Early C17, altered C18/C19. Rare survival of jettied timber frame, plastered, slate roof. 4 storeys. 3 windows wide. Ground floor has early to mid C19 shop front with door to left and glazing bar display window, set back under 1st floor overhang. Flush framed sash windows to upper floors, the 2nd floor coved out as further jetty. Parapet with coping. R C H M.
In London , there is not a whole heap of old stuff, even in the suburbs. As mainly earlier buildings were timber frames, many were lost in the great fire. Greater London has approx. 400 timber frames left, many lost to re-designing an area (in the 1970s, much of Dagenham village was got rid of...and it was also discovered that some of the buildings dated to the 13th century...
), some lost to redevelopment, some lost to the war... Hackney's and perhaps inner city London's most recent big lost was the bombing and eventual destruction of Brook house in clapton. A Manor house where Henry viii had said to reconcil with one of his daughters and Pepys went to check out school girls. Timber frame at the back and georgian at the front...
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
A couple of friends once lived in Sutton House in Homerton - that's from the early 16th I think
