Brixton's oldest House???

[boohoo]

Not really, no.



According to this it seems they were probably built around 1815.

http://www.brockwellpark.com/history/history.htm

Seeing as a house/estate existed there before Brockwell Hall was rebuilt, it seems likely that there are some structures in the park which might date back earlier than 1800. I wonder how old some of the walls to the walled garden might be, for example.

There is always the question that are they sure that the original hall wasn't completely demolished. Broomfield house up Enfield way was discovered to have a timberframe interior - they presumed it was an older building til most of it burnt down..and hey presto - timber frame....

 

[lang rabbie]

There is always the question that are they sure that the original hall wasn't completely demolished. Broomfield house up Enfield way was discovered to have a timberframe interior - they presumed it was an older building til most of it burnt down..and hey presto - timber frame....

Unlikely in this case...

The Lambeth Manor Inclosure map of 1810 shows that the only building standing on Blades' estate at Brixton was Brockwell Hall, which stood near the present Norwood Road. Shortly afterwards Blades demolished this house, and the Rate Books show that between 1811 and 1813 he erected the present house on top of the hill to the north-west.

From: 'Tulse Hill and Brockwell Park', Survey of London: volume 26: Lambeth: Southern area (1956), pp. 155-166. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=49778 Date accessed: 13 January 2009.

 

[clandestino]

According the Brixton Society website, my house was built around 1830.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

According the Brixton Society website, my house was built around 1830.

You should look at censuses and see who lived there throughout the years

 

[Pip]

You should look at censuses and see who lived there throughout the years

Wow, I want to do that with my flat! I'm guessing I can't though

 

[Onket]

They don't say if you can actually see it though as it says it's behind a load of newer houses and shops

Depends how hard you try.

I think, like boohoo said, we managed to see it's roof. Possibly.

 

[Kanda]

According the Brixton Society website, my house was built around 1830.

aren't you on my road?

 

[clandestino]

You should look at censuses and see who lived there throughout the years

A guy called John lived here before us. I know that because he'd painted John Is King in big white letters on one of the doors.

How do you do this census thing?

 

[clandestino]

aren't you on my road?

I don't think so. I thought you lived on the gardens. I'm a short walk away.

 

[Kanda]

Yeah, just in the corner before you come round and turn out to the Sth Circ.

 

[clandestino]

Oh nice! I like that little corner. That's where I'd want to live if I lived on that square.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

A guy called John lived here before us. I know that because he'd painted John Is King in big white letters on one of the doors.

How do you do this census thing?

They'll be online later in the year. I have a feeling some already are, but I'm not going to waste 30 credits (over £3) to find out

Although I'm not sure if it's only for 1911?

From this summer, viewers will be able to look up the history of their house or ancestor's house in 1911

 

[boohoo]

didn't take too much to find a picture on the editors section on the old camping shop -It's the red coloured roofs behind the chicken shop....

and for the brixton hill peeps, editor's article on the camping shop - no mention of Montagu pike though!

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/scala.html

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

didn't take too much to find a picture on the editors section on the old camping shop -It's the red coloured roofs behind the chicken shop....

and for the brixton hill peeps, editor's article on the camping shop - no mention of Montagu pike though!

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/scala.html

I'm pretty sure you can see back of it from Josephine Avenue behind Curry Paradise and Cafe on the Hill

 

[clandestino]

They'll be online later in the year. I have a feeling some already are, but I'm not going to waste 30 credits (over £3) to find out

Although I'm not sure if it's only for 1911?

Good idea. I might do that...

 

[quimcunx]

didn't take too much to find a picture on the editors section on the old camping shop -It's the red coloured roofs behind the chicken shop....

and for the brixton hill peeps, editor's article on the camping shop - no mention of Montagu pike though!

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/scala.html

I think pretty much all of those businesses have gone now.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I think pretty much all of those businesses have gone now.

Not sure if it'll go straight onto the 1911 census website or Find My Past but they're linked.

Here's the website

er, deleted as it has my name.

Just google "1911 census" later in the year and it'll be easy enough to find the website

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I think pretty much all of those businesses have gone now.

The ones in the B&W photo or the colour photo?

The Locksmiths and Sheilas are still there

 

[teuchter]

Here is a photo I took from my biplane earlier today.

I presume the red roofs are where the "oldest house" is.

 

[boohoo]

i was just looking at that from my airship....

I'm curious about the other little red roof house behind the shops and the larger area extending at the back of the old cinema. We need a ladder or someone who can charm people into letting us look into their buildings.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

i was just looking at that from my airship....

I'm curious about the other little red roof house behind the shops and the larger area extending at the back of the old cinema. We need a ladder or someone who can charm people into letting us look into their buildings.

hm, wonder what you could see from the dole office?

 

[teuchter]

i was just looking at that from my airship....

I'm curious about the other little red roof house behind the shops and the larger area extending at the back of the old cinema. We need a ladder or someone who can charm people into letting us look into their buildings.

I've just realised that I've been into a flat which might just be part of the "oldest house" although I'm not too sure. All I remember is we went into the little courtyard at the back (off Josephine Avenue) and it was on the right somewhere (I think through another courtyard). I shall have to go and have a nosey some time.

 

[quimcunx]

i was just looking at that from my airship....

I'm curious about the other little red roof house behind the shops and the larger area extending at the back of the old cinema. We need a ladder or someone who can charm people into letting us look into their buildings.

*awaits call to people-charming duty*





*comes to senses*

*blames lingering lurgy*

 

[Cowley]

I always thought this small terrace of Georgian houses on Cowley Road were the oldest houses in Brixton.

I use to live around that way...always wanted to live in one of them, even though they're probably tiny.

 

[Orang Utan]

How old are the houses in Trinity Gardens? They look a bit Georgian

 

[boohoo]

I always thought this small terrace of Georgian houses on Cowley Road were the oldest houses in Brixton.

I use to live around that way...always wanted to live in one of them, even though they're probably tiny.

Not sure what the dates are on those are. If we are going further afield for old houses, then the closest to Brixton are 1786 Queens Row on Stockwell Road (nr Farside Pub which is a building of the same date). Clapham old town is perhaps next stop for early buildings with very early 18 century buildings.

 

[boohoo]

How old are the houses in Trinity Gardens? They look a bit Georgian

From Brixton Society website:

This was originally built as Trinity Square in the 1850s

So that's early Victorian ( not to far away from late Georgian)

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Not sure what the dates are on those are. If we are going further afield for old houses, then the closest to Brixton are 1786 Queens Row on Stockwell Road (nr Farside Pub which is a building of the same date). Clapham old town is perhaps next stop for early buildings with very early 18 century buildings.

Any of this lot?

Nos. 9–27 (odd) Cowley Road
Formerly Nos. 1–10 (consec), Cowley Road
Nos. 11–21 are two-storey stucco-fronted houses (Plate 48a). They form a terrace which has a front of considerable distinction, being in effect a continuous wall arcade. Each house has three elliptical-headed arches, the middle one containing the arched doorway and that on either side a ground- and first-floor window, the latter adorned with a cast-iron guard. Each house is separated from its neighbours by a narrow roundheaded recess. The front of No. 9, which is similar though set back and narrower, and the fronts of Nos. 11–21 are uniformly finished with a delicate cornice and blocking course which is continued above the more orthodox fronts of Nos. 23–27. August 30, 1824; James Crundall. (ref. 80)

Nos. 29–67 (odd) Cowley Road

Formerly Nos. 1–20 (consec.) Cowley Place

These are rows of two-storey houses, the centre group being raised on a semi-basement. All are two windows wide and the wall face sets back for the entrances and to mark the party walls. The doorways are framed by architraves and those in the lower houses have fluted quadrant pilasters. At first-floor level there is a sill-band and the fronts finish with a cornice and blocking course. There are variations in several of the houses. May 25, 1831; Benjamin Currey. (ref. 81)

Nos. 69–107 (odd) Cowley Road

Nos. 89–107, formerly Nos. 1–10 (consec.) Cowley Terrace

No. 69 was built as a detached two-storeyed villa, three windows wide, with single-storeyed wings. It has a slated roof and the long groundfloor windows are in round-arched recesses with moulded imposts. October 30, 1830; George Henry Rickards of Vassall Road. (ref. 89)

Nos. 71–87 are undistinguished stock brick or stucco-faced houses of two storeys, mostly built in pairs. May 25, 1831; Mrs. Mary Currey, widow, of Charterhouse Square. (ref. 90)

Nos. 89–107 form a row of two-storeyed houses of the poorest type. May 26, 1831; Benjamin Currey. (ref. 91

From: 'Brixton: Lambeth Wick estate', Survey of London: volume 26: Lambeth: Southern area (1956), pp. 108-122. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=49769 Date accessed: 14 January 2009.

 

[teuchter]

Was out in the biplane again today and took these photos which show things a little more clearly:

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Was out in the biplane again today and took these photos which show things a little more clearly:

where are you getting these pictures from teuchter?