Discussion in 'Brixton' started by phillm, Oct 2, 2017.
And sadly here's a bit of bad news.
Revealed: 'For sale' sign hoisted over Brixton Market
Fuck. I think that worth a thread of its own. I posted more about the markets here: Brixton for sale: Brixton Village and Market Row are on the market for £30m
Some interesting comments from FB friends. I think this really will finish off the market as a place having any kind of connection with the past (or, indeed, the reasons for its listed status):
Profit-taking by the current owner. As suggested above, new owner (assuming it's not some boring pension-fund type group - which would be good, but unlikely) is likely to want routes to increased property value - which means reviving the 2007 plan to build flats on top - only this time it will be many more flats (8 stories?), with (I predict) a 'clever' scheme to keep the market open during construction. Squire & co as architects? I wouldn't be surprised...
This is the last nail in the coffee...
It definitely doesn't look good. I've been renting a studio via ASC since 2010, during which time my rent has tripled. I was already dreading the rent review in January. Now I'm worried it could be the last one...
So is it really a given that the new landlord will be worse than the current one?
This might be good news for the 414, at least for a while...maybe the plans for their building will go on the back burner for a year or two.
The markets are listed now. So don't think that could happen.
Being listed doesn't guarantee that a building will never get altered or flattened.
Ninety listed buildings demolished
And then of course there's the mysterious arson bug that affects so many listed buildings that stand in the way of profitable developments...
Listed building status is paper-thin protection - not any sort of guarantee.
Clever architects are great at finding ways to make it look nice, while gutting the reality. In this case, preserving the entrance facades and the market, while keeping the housing set back above would probably be a goer.
Check out the price of public land in brixton.
Indeed - and you can see an example of that right next door with Walton Lodge.
This one was an absolute shocker. The architects and everyone involved in the project should hang their heads in shame.
Yes, it's criminal, or at least it should be.
Not sure that would be the case with the markets. It's Grade 2 listed. The listing reason Includes the roof of market row and Brixton village.
Also the internals of Reliance Arcade.
BRIXTON MARKETS - RELIANCE ARCADE, MARKET ROW AND GRANVILLE ARCADE (BRIXTON VILLAGE), Lambeth - 1393881| Historic England
So it is not only exterior frontage that's protected.
The question is why if it was possible to put in plans to build housing on top the present owners didn't do that? As it would have increased value if it was sold with planing permission for alterations.
Like listing the Rec like listing the markets isn't complete protection. It wasn't imo a waste of time imo to get markets listed. It stopped the first plans to build on it. It gives the covered markets a status architecturally they didn't have before. The listing also is for the markets later importance as shopping area for the Windrush generation.
One of my problems with listing is that it protects buildings but doesn't stop gentrification.
Listing helps but is not total safeguard. Unless it's Grade 2 star listing like the Brixton Windmill.
A possible scenario for the covered markets is a restoration job and letting out shops to upmarket business. See Bermondsey market as example. ( A job for Squires)
That would begin accord with architectural side of listing if not to the markets historical heritage for the working class Afro Carribbean community.
We had this discussion on urban before and it seems that the historical heritage bit don't mean jack in terms of protecting that mix. It's already shifted massively from being a market I'd describe as predominately Afro-Caribbean.
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