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DietCokeGirl

All lost in the supermarket
Data protection law is changing massively from next year in terms of what data 'controllers' can collect, store, and share. I wonder if this will affect these venues?
On a personal level, I don't have a drivers license and I don't take my passport out routinely in case I loose it, so it's making it much harder to do those spontaneous 'fuck it, let's go and have a dance' nights out.
 

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hiraethified
So the Prince of Wales now demands full photo scanning on Thursdays. Some old boy who had been coming to the jazz nights for years was turned away last night.
 

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hiraethified
So I'm doing an update on this and - blimey - what a palaver for Hootananny:
For your safety and security, we have installed an IDscan system at the gate. This means – regardless of age or appearance – you need to bring valid ID, which may be:
  • Passport
  • Driving Licence
  • Home Office approved proof-of-age card
  • Hootananny’s licence requires everyone who comes after 11pm to become a club member.
  • Bring regular ID, as is usual to enter any UK club and we will scan it with our IDscan. This will admit or confirm you as club members.
  • You will be admitted to the Music Lovers Club at the box office, but as a membership club, the club can turn down membership on the basis of age, state of inebriation, or prior bad behaviour, or concern of future bad behaviour
  • To gain entrance after 11pm on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday, you need to become a club member.
So you need both valid ID and a member's card to get in some nights (on top of the admission free) and you may still get refused on account of their "concern of future bad behaviour"...
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
So I'm doing an update on this and - blimey - what a palaver for Hootananny:



So you need both valid ID and a member's card to get in some nights (on top of the admission free) and you may still get refused on account of their "concern of future bad behaviour"...
Regardless of age and appearance. And scan your ID. Its Orwellian.

The concern of future had behaviour is insidious. You might be innocent of any offence and stil get turned down due to what is in effect hearsay.

One point of this intrusive ID scanning is to share information.

Really puts me off.
 

jimbarkanoodle

Well-Known Member
So I'm doing an update on this and - blimey - what a palaver for Hootananny:



So you need both valid ID and a member's card to get in some nights (on top of the admission free) and you may still get refused on account of their "concern of future bad behaviour"...

I dont think you need a membership card. Its just a completely pointless way of saying you need I.D to come in, the POW have a similar policy. Why i have no idea.

Saying that i seem to recall that a few years back, later on Friday and Saturday nights, once they scanned your I.D at Hootanannys, you were required to show some kind of membership card, and if you didn't have one in your wallet from a previous visit you had to pay a couple of quid for a new one!
 

sim667

Licking windows on the 303 bus.
Bit off topic, but I've seen Parklife Festival Security were performing strip searches without police presence over the weekend..... Surely thats got to be a legal grey area too? I thought SIA weren't allowed to perform a strip search even with consent.
 

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hiraethified
I dont think you need a membership card. Its just a completely pointless way of saying you need I.D to come in, the POW have a similar policy. Why i have no idea.

Saying that i seem to recall that a few years back, later on Friday and Saturday nights, once they scanned your I.D at Hootanannys, you were required to show some kind of membership card, and if you didn't have one in your wallet from a previous visit you had to pay a couple of quid for a new one!
The text on their site seems quite specific:
  • To gain entrance after 11pm on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday, you need to become a club member.
  • Non-members already in Hootananny by 11pm can stay. But only Hootananny Music Lovers Club members can join the party after 11pm.
Info | Hootananny Brixton, Live Music Venue & Mexican Restaurant, Ska Roots Reggae World Folk Music, DJs, London UK
 

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hiraethified
Bit off topic, but I've seen Parklife Festival Security were performing strip searches without police presence over the weekend..... Surely thats got to be a legal grey area too? I thought SIA weren't allowed to perform a strip search even with consent.
This explains what they can do i some detail:

If you are searched, it must be compliant and based around surface area only – they cannot go under clothing to search. They are allowed to ask you to remove a coat/jacket/jumper, but that’s it.

They can search quite thoroughly – and well trained security staff are good at this. You will know how good they are when you are first “touched” – if they start with a collar check, you are probably meeting someone that has been trained by someone with a background in military, police or prison searches.

They are not allowed to touch genitals, but are allowed to “back hand” your buttocks/boobs – and also to run their hands up the insides of your legs.
Festival security, drug searches and your safety – an insider’s guide, 2018 update
 
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