Brixton Somerleyton Road development, Ovalhouse and Brixton Green - funding, proposed rents etc

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by ViolentPanda, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Interesting to note, as Brixton buzz piece does, that Brixton Green appear to be back in the scheme. Unfortunately. I wondered why they had gone all quiet. Now they are back with the movers and shakers community action is no longer required. Its back to meetings with Council ,which as Brixton buzz report says , public have no access to the minutes. Meetings that are taking decisions for the local community. Despite promise that these minutes will be available to public.
  2. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Reading through the Council report , linked in Brixton buzz article, its clear that the scheme is being funded by Lambeth council and Ovalhouse. Brixton Green aren't raising any of the funds.
  3. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    This on page 62 caught my eye.

    What local residents? How will stakeholder engagement work?
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  4. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Page 59/ 60

    So what this is saying is what I knew anyway. The Council have put in a lot of officer time and resources to help Brixton Green.

    The narrative BG present is that its been them doing this. Not the case.
  5. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    So all the talk from BG about how they were thwarted by Council officers isn't the whole story.
  6. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    If I was Council officer trying to work out finance for large scheme which the Council will take the risk for and have the jokers from Brixton Green telling me to give it to them I might after a while get sick of it.

    Plus the lack of Brixton Greens ability to deal with local community. Which was why they were made the Council's "community partners".

    All in all a headache for officers.
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  7. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Seems like Brixton Green have given up on involvement with Somerleyton Road. They sent out a press release this morning:

    Brixton Green calls Time on Lambeth Council
    After more than a decade, the 1,300+ strong community-led development campaign Brixton Green has decided to pull out of any further work with Lambeth Council.
    The Board of Trustees want to explain the decision, taken at its January meeting:
    “We have worked incredibly hard to place a shared vision of community led housing at the forefront of the Somerleyton Road development. We are proud of the impact our members have had on the mixed uses, housing standards, and the design, which has planning permission, and in putting together a strong body of work on how the housing can be 100% rented, be managed by the community and developed at no cost to the Council. (see notes 3 and 4)
    Our members wanted a true partnership with community led decision making. Unfortunately Lambeth Council’s actions have shown us that it has neither the appetite nor the capacity to work with the community on this development. Since May 2018, the council has not acted collaboratively, and the pledge signed by Lambeth Labour before the election has been broken. (see note 1)
    We cannot in good conscience be associated with their proposal in the January 2019 Cabinet paper, to join a steering group which smacks more of placation than real partnership (see note 2).
    Should the position change and Lambeth show a genuine desire to share decision-making with the community we stand ready to assist.
    In the meantime we are considering the future of Brixton Green - what role it might take in Lambeth and in promoting our model elsewhere.”

    The notes are very long but available on here: Brixton Green calls Time on Lambeth Council - Staying True to the shared vision for Somerleyton Road
  8. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Good fucking riddance to that bunch of dodgy chancers. And liars.
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  9. editor

    editor hiraethified

    "1,300+ strong community-led development "

    Such utter bollocks.
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  10. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    They turned up at last Brixton Neighborhood Forum. Which I was not expecting.

    They just rub me up the wrong way.

    They were giving the we are victims of terrible New Labour Council line.

    It gets them support.

    I was in minority in meeting when I asked them what actually was the proportion of housing at social rents ( that is Council level rents) they were going to do on their scheme.

    I got a load of waffle. In their scheme rents would be means tested. Fifty percent of development would be market rent. Rest would be based on means testing of income.

    This really never did sound that wonderful.

    And btw this was not gaurenteed.

    BG made much of saying they had lenders who would fund there scheme.

    As I was there at the beginning BG knew full well that this was Council scheme. Council were going to build it. Ovalhouse were going to fund and build the theatre.

    Council can be criticised for not getting on with Somerleyton but BG were never going to deliver imo.

    Unless the Council have them the land for free it would never have worked.

    And do I want BG to have the land? No.

    I think the BG resentment at Ovalhouse is that they are getting deal to lease the land from Council for long lease.
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  11. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Just spotted this:

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  12. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Don't know if anyone is interested in this Evening Standard article.

    "Woolwich Creative District" seems like an up-scaled version of what people have been trying to do in Somerleyton Road and other parts of central Brixton.

    The bottom line is that in Woolwich the "genuinely affordable" homes have been knocked back from the originally planned 35% to a mere 8%.

    The creative part sounds very interesting but even Greenwich Council, traditionally left of Lambeth or Southwark, have had to sacrifice the needs of ordinary people on the altar of developer-led regeneration.
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    editor hiraethified

  14. brixtonblade

    brixtonblade Well-Known Member

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  15. Marka17

    Marka17 New Member

    Can someone help clarify something for me? I've read the Cabinet Report (Jan 2019) and it references multiple blocks, A to F.
    I wanted to see what these would look like, where retail space etc would be, and found some drawings on Brixton Green website. The Development | Brixton Green
    But now they're no longer a part of this process anymore are these details null and void or is that unrelated?

    Also the report repeatedly mentions ongoing community consultations - any idea how I can keep an eye out as to when/where these will take place?

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  16. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    This I think is the planning application (ref 15/05282/RG3) and you should be able to find the drawings in there under associated documents. There have been various amendments to it since then; I'm not up to date on what they are or how significant they are.

    15/05282/RG3 | Demolition of existing buildings on-site (with the exception of Carlton Mansions which is retained and refurbished) and redevelopment to provide a residential-led, mixed use development comprising 304 new dwellings (50% affordable) and approximately 8,000 sq.m (GIA) of non-residential uses including a theatre (Sui Generis) and employment, retail and community uses (Use class B1/D1/A1/A2) with associated parking, landscaping and ancillary works. | Land Bound By Somerleyton Road, Coldharbour Lane And Railway Line London SW9
  17. Marka17

    Marka17 New Member

    Thanks teuchter - that's exactly what i was looking for. Much appreciated.
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  20. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member

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  21. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member

    be up and running in a blink of an eye, and I’ll have to park a mile away but hey ho
  22. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I thought people living in Brixton Square were not supposed to require parking. Has BS been redesignated as social housing?
  23. Marka17

    Marka17 New Member

    The big bit of land at the other end of road is up for rent if anyones interested! Somewhere to park your car maybe :D
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  24. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Is that the Angela Davis car park?
  25. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member


    Attached Files:

  26. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member

    Nope, but we do need guidance on how to use a balcony.
  27. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Haven't you all got cleaners to sort out your mess?
  28. Mr Bim of Bar

    Mr Bim of Bar Well-Known Member

    Ha ha ha there seems to be an abundance of cleaners here but personally I pick up other peoples cigarette butts.
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  29. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    When I lived in Effra Court it was all about not hanging your washing out. Considering the vintage of the building c 1935 I guess they worried in case one's bloomers were on display. My aunt said this was too risqué.
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  30. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Quote didn't work.:mad:

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