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Chairs are seldom cheap outside of something found in a charity shop. £45 for a chair that’s also a collectible item and can be resold in the future is by no means super-expensive, nor it implies the Village is becoming an exclusive hunting ground for rich people only. Those are not exactly Chippendale chairs.
 

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Chairs are seldom cheap outside of something found in a charity shop. £45 for a chair that’s also a collectible item and can be resold in the future is by no means super-expensive, nor it implies the Village is becoming an exclusive hunting ground for rich people only. Those are not exactly Chippendale chairs.
It's a secondhand child's plastic chair. For £45
How much do you think ordinary families around here pay for a plastic seat for their kid?
 

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It's a secondhand child's plastic chair. For £45
Which is also a collectable, and of a design some people will find attractive. There are all kinds of collectable items that will undoubtedly puzzle others. Fair enough if you can't see the attraction or value, but plenty of others will and one does not need to be rich, posh or trendy to do so.

Plenty of venerable secondhand bookshops have a collectable/ first edition section. Would you be making the same kind of arguments if you spotted a first edition copy of an Agatha Christie novel priced at £50 in the window of Brixton bookshop? What an extravagant rip off when could buy the same novel as a second hand paperback for £1, right?

How much do you think ordinary families around here pay for a plastic seat for their kid?
Why? Is this shop the only supplier of second hand chairs in Brixton?
 

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Which is also a collectable, and of a design some people will find attractive. There are all kinds of collectable items that will undoubtedly puzzle others. Fair enough if you can't see the attraction or value, but plenty of others will and one does not need to be rich, posh or trendy to do so.

Plenty of venerable secondhand bookshops have a collectable/ first edition section. Would you be making the same kind of arguments if you spotted a first edition copy of an Agatha Christie novel priced at £50 in the window of Brixton bookshop? What an extravagant rip off when could buy the same novel as a second hand paperback for £1, right?

Why? Is this shop the only supplier of second hand chairs in Brixton?
If they are in good nick then absolutely a bargain I think
 
It's a secondhand child's plastic chair. For £45
How much do you think ordinary families around here pay for a plastic seat for their kid?
I have no idea, what's the definition of an 'ordinary family'? If I wanted children's chairs then I'd buy these from Argos, 30 quid and a table thrown in, handily on Atlantic Road: Buy Liberty House Plastic Table & Chairs | Kids tables and chairs | Argos (funky colours ahoy here!) Or I could get them cheaper I'm sure if I scoured Gumtree or Urban75's legendary 'recycle your stuff' forum, on which I have gratefully given and received many things to date.

If a market trader had found some very collectible/vintage designs, and wanted to flog them to make a living at what is considerably below the market rate (admittedly second hand), then is that not OK? If somebody was selling a vintage Gretsch drumkit or Lomo camera at a good price in the Village would you be making the same point?

If some people want to pay £45 for £200+ vintage design chairs a la Philippe Starck, why should they not? It's not clear what you are specifically objecting to. Please be clearer if you can.
 
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Awesome. Great to see the Village becoming the go-to location for super expensive, secondhand vintage stuff.
The go-to location for super expensive, secondhand vintage stuff is actually Herne Hill or Church Road in Crystal Palace. There's prices there that would make your eyes water.

Because somebody is selling those doesn't make Brixton Market the 'go to' location for that stuff. Hey, it might do, which would be a shame, but who are you to decide what people can and cannot sell to make a living?
 
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Popping into Brixton Villaaaaage? Looking for four secondhand children's plastic chairs? That'll be £180 thank you.

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Why I don't use Brixton village much.

I see some posters here are candidates for "I saw you coming". The whole joke behind that sketch is that idiots will pay loads of money for what in reality cheap goods.

Good to see that this satirical comedy sketch is still relevant.
 

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I have no idea, what's the definition of an 'ordinary family'? If I wanted children's chairs then I'd buy these from Argos, 30 quid and a table thrown in, handily on Atlantic Road: Buy Liberty House Plastic Table & Chairs | Kids tables and chairs | Argos (funky colours ahoy here!) Or I could get them cheaper I'm sure if I scoured Gumtree or Urban75's legendary 'recycle your stuff' forum, on which I have gratefully given and received many things to date.

If a market trader had found some very collectible/vintage designs, and wanted to flog them to make a living at what is considerably below the market rate (admittedly second hand), then is that not OK? If somebody was selling a vintage Gretsch drumkit or Lomo camera at a good price in the Village would you be making the same point?

If some people want to pay £45 for £200+ vintage design chairs a la Philippe Starck, why should they not? It's not clear what you are specifically objecting to. Please be clearer if you can.
That the Granville Arcade I knew was full of affordable useful shops. Not eateries or "I saw you coming" shops.
 

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Not sure that’s a sketch. ;)
Its reality in London. Despite being old.

Mentioning old satire I was at new block of flats in West London picking up stuff which was straight out of Ballards "High Rise". The residents package included a "lifestyle consultant" and 24 hour concierge / security. Such is life in London now.
 
That the Granville Arcade I knew was full of affordable useful shops. Not eateries or "I saw you coming" shops.
That's a worthwhile comment. And so the issue is that the whole retail landscape has changed. And this discussion about cocktail bars and burgers has been had many times. And I acknowledge that wholesale gentrification is a bad thing. There are also still some affordable useful shops there, but a lot fewer than before. Many reasons for that I know.

Posting up sarcastic comments about individual items for sale isn't really a good way to deal with that because it detracts from the issue at hand. Like I say, if somebody was selling a vintage drumkit, camera or vinyl or whatever else people on here are passionate about, the comment could equally be made is that there are some wonderful traders that have some really interesting stuff (whether or not you can afford them). And they may or may not be traders that have been in the market for a long time and have diversified. I'd love a vintage Gretsch drumkit. I couldn't afford it but would love to look at it.

How much an ordinary family pays for a child's chair (not much I imagine as per my previous post) is entirely unrelated to the fact that somebody is selling four very collectible vintage design chairs for a quarter of the current new selling price. It's a distortion.
 
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Gramsci

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That's a worthwhile comment. And so the issue is that the whole retail landscape has changed. And this discussion about cocktail bars and burgers has been had many times. And I acknowledge that wholesale gentrification is a bad thing. There are also still some affordable useful shops there, but a lot fewer than before. Many reasons for that I know.

Posting up sarcastic comments about individual items for sale isn't really a good way to deal with that because it detracts from the issue at hand. Like I say, if somebody was selling a vintage drumkit, camera or vinyl or whatever else people on here are passionate about, the comment could equally be made is that there are some wonderful traders that have some really interesting stuff (whether or not you can afford them). And they may or may not be traders that have been in the market for a long time and have diversified. I'd love a vintage Gretsch drumkit. I couldn't afford it but would love to look at it.

How much an ordinary family pays for a child's chair (not much I imagine as per my previous post) is entirely unrelated to the fact that somebody is selling four very collectible vintage design chairs for a quarter of the current new selling price. It's a distortion.
You really don't get this.

Typical comment from you. Start by saying you agree then long post why in this particular instance its not relevant.
 

Gramsci

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*That* is worth railing against. Avocado Latte Newspeak.

Not a market trader selling vintage collectibles at second hand market price.
Its the "lifestyle consultant" that will be pointing the residents of this new block towards traders selling vintage collectibles.

There were some in the new flats "residents lounge". Which led to the residents cinema.
 
There's also fshmongers, butcher's, fruit and veg / grocery shops in Brixton Village. This idea that its only for rich people hurts those traders. If you dislike the expensive shops, perhaps support the last few family buissnesses, rather than write the whole place off.
Spot on. It's irresponsible, context free distortion. Much like fencing-gate.
 

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DIY shop, pet shop, the afro Carribbean bakery for example.
I was delighted when that pet shop went. Depressing place keeping animals in cramped, dark conditions. Miserable.

Wasn't the bakery D Bess? They are wholesalers now rather than retail. They had a huge site on Brighton Terrace (now the SLAM drug rehab place) and then moved to Acre Lane.
 

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If you dislike the expensive shops, perhaps support the last few family buissnesses, rather than write the whole place off.
The Canterbury is always one of the old Brixton places some posters on here bemoan about losing. But they are the ones that never supported it when it was open. Maybe if they had it would have been busier and the landlord wouldn't have been tempted to sell and cash in.
 

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DIY shop, pet shop, the afro Carribbean bakery for example.
That’s not for example. That’s it. And pet shops have closed all over. Often that’s a good thing as they did no favours to the pets they sold, while there’s little money to be made in selling straw and pet food.

Romanticising what Granville Arcade used to be like in the nineties is pointless. Picturesque but half empty.
 
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