Brixton news, rumours and general chat: Summer - Autumn 2018

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Jun 21, 2018.

  1. discobastard

    discobastard ____*\(oo)/*____

    I reckon that's a prime candidate for Pseud's Corner in Private Eye.

    ETA: Gramsci didn't say that, but it's the quote he quoted, as it were.
     
  2. discobastard

    discobastard ____*\(oo)/*____

    (I've chucked out my last copy of Private Eye - if anybody can send me the email to submit this to them I shall gladly do so - it's fucking nonsense)
     
  3. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I've looked at Resolve Collective website and think they have all the right intentions. I also think as a young "collective" they are on the right track. I met young people like this. What they are up against is ( in Lambeth) the revolting centre ground establishment. So no I wouldn't say they are candidate for Private Eye.

    Tbh I really don't know what progressive minded young people in architecture/ urban design are supposed to do now.

    The real scum are our New Labour Cllrs. Who set up these competitions to decorate our urban space. With a touchy feely middle ground multiculturalism. That fits in with the New Labour project.
     
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  4. discobastard

    discobastard ____*\(oo)/*____

    That's a very fair post Gramsci.

    What they've written is nonsense, but it is expected in the current climate, where their role is to sell things to those that can create wealth in a area (however misguided that may be, and whether it is economically misguided in the short or long term). And there are differences in very short distances (Tulse Hill/West Norwood where I live is very different to Brixton).

    It's still worthy of Pseud's Corner, no matter what their intention, but I can understand why it was written in the first place.
     
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  5. discobastard

    discobastard ____*\(oo)/*____

    That I agree with, but I doubt they are as organised as to follow a specific ideology. It's just following the money (which is much easier than ideology).
     
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  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It's just artwank bullshit by nicely educated types.

     
  7. DietCokeGirl

    DietCokeGirl [Your Ad Here]

    It will be covered in multicoloured tags in a week anyway.
     
  8. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    What does “nicely educated” mean?
     
  9. eyeroll

    eyeroll New Member

    Seriously? How dare someone complete an architecture degree?

    The lead designer behind this bridge is an artist and architect called Farouk Agoro who collaborated with Akil from the Resolve Collective. Maybe, for a change, you could show some love for the young black creatives from Brixton who have been given the opportunity to paint a huge love letter to their area? Yes they had to collaborate with the shitshow that is Lambeth Council but at the end of the day they're flying their colours proudly - red, gold and green. For the soundsystems, for the reggae vendors, for the Rastas, for the Reparations March that walks under it every year, for the culture that is so painfully being whitewashed every day in Brixton.
     
  10. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    I couldn’t agree more
     
  11. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    it'd better be sturdy, and not drop on the reparations demonstration
     
  12. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Someone with a nice degree. Most of the people on my estate don't have one, although I would have preferred to have them involved in creating something on that bridge.
     
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  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Would you be one of the aforementioned architects?

    If so, please explain how that outpouring of guff about "playfully interpreting both sides and directions of movement as the ultimate act of approach. Undertones of ‘love’, ‘neighborliness’, ‘homecoming’ and ‘peace’ act as a potent reminder of Brixton as more than an area, but a community" relates to the everyday struggles of people of all colours living in one of the most deprived areas of London?

    PS If you are the architect, don't take this personally. If you put up loud public art, you can can't complain if locals voice loud opinions about it! It's their town too and they;re just as proud of it. Maybe even more so.
     
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  14. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  15. alcopop

    alcopop Well-Known Member

    What’s a “nice” degree
     
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  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Around my estate: any degree.
     
  17. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    2.2 will do
     
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  18. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Here's a question more interesting than anything alcopop will ever ask: Why are 2:2s called Desmonds?
     
  19. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

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  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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  21. fishfinger

    fishfinger تپلی

    That's a 4 by tutu.
     
  22. eyeroll

    eyeroll New Member

    Haha no I'm not! I do know Farouk very well though. He's very aware of the loud opinions of his fellow locals - I've been calming his anxieties this whole week while the final lettering went up! It's all good, I'm just defensive on his behalf :p

    I don't know Akil or the Resolve Collective though so I can't speak for the guff they have on their website but sometimes guff is what it takes to get through commissions & competitions unfortunately.
     
  23. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I just wish that there had been more community involvement in this design - less architects and more locals. It's a bold and loud design, so it's going to get bold and loud criticism. I don't like it myself. It just seems like another forced 'icon' to help turn Brixton into a Camden-style tourist trap.
     
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  24. eyeroll

    eyeroll New Member

    I get that. Lambeth did make it a competition open to the public but didn't publicise it well at all so I'm just glad some actual locals did find out about it and win it in the end. Yeah he's a qualified architect but I feel like you may be imagining it as some lucrative profession and not the constant slog to get properly paid for a skill that most people think they can do cause they watched an episode of Grand Designs.

    Possibly (definitely... haha) biased but I thought their design was the best from all the rest that were shortlisted. I don't see how it would have ever avoided being a 'forced' icon regardless of who designed it - new public art on that bridge will always attract new attention.

    Obviously not everyone is going to like it, that's cool. That's the nature of public art.
     
  25. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'd suggest that the greater majority of locals had no idea the competition was going on, which is a shame given that the bridge is supposed to represent the area in some regard.
     
  26. eyeroll

    eyeroll New Member

    I guess they could've used the slogan: "CLAPHAM’S THAT WAY YOU 2D FLAT WHITE TEPID COLONIALIST YUPPY WANKER" but that was already taken. ;)
     
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  27. eyeroll

    eyeroll New Member

    Agreed.
     
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  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Now that's a sign I could have REALLY got behind.
     
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  29. organicpanda

    organicpanda cat herder extraodinaire

    say's the person who renamed Brixton, East Clapham :D
     
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  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Just spotted what looked very much like a beardy Thom Yorke walking down Coldharbour Lane.

    #celebwatch
     
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