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editor

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Business takes up advertisement in newspaper shock.
Weirdly out of touch poster singularly fails to comprehend any of the social-economic consequences of the transformation of a local market in a poor area into a gentrified, must-see, hipster destination advertised across the capital shocker.

And all financed by a billionaire socialite.
 

teuchter

je suis teuchter
It's made to appeal to younger sensibilities rather than to old fogeys I guess. Seems like they've managed ok on that front.
 

T & P

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Weirdly out of touch poster singularly fails to comprehend any of the social-economic consequences of the transformation of a local market in a poor area into a gentrified, must-see, hipster destination advertised across the capital shocker.

And all financed by a billionaire socialite.
All of which happened a quite a few years ago. I was simply puzzled by the 'Bad news, folks!' feel of your post, as if the appearance of this advert now was going to cause the transformation of Brixton Village, and bring tourists to Brixton. That ship obviously sailed a long, long time ago, so the advert seems hardly newsworthy imo.
 

editor

hiraethified
All of which happened a quite a few years ago. I was simply puzzled by the 'Bad news, folks!' feel of your post, as if the appearance of this advert now was going to cause the transformation of Brixton Village, and bring tourists to Brixton. That ship obviously sailed a long, long time ago, so the advert seems hardly newsworthy imo.
The Village has changed over the years but it's unquestionably entering an even bigger change now as the super rich DJ owner expands the space and turns it into a mass marketed destination for affluent tourists to rival Camden.

This is the first time I've ever seen a full page advert for the Village in Time Out and it's clearly targeting a pretty specific demographic which is likely to increase the social division in the community. I find that rather depressing myself but if you just want to shrug your shoulders about it, that's your choice.

And plenty of other people elsewhere have found it to be something worth commenting on, despite your dismissal.

Update to include Time Out's description of their reach:

We enable brands to connect with a hard-to reach, active, affluent and engaged audience at a global, local and hyper-local level - we call them Time Outers.

If you want to engage with the hard-to-reach influential Millennials, the best way to find them is on Time Out...
 
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ViolentPanda

Hardly getting over it.
I seem to be managing to survive quite well thank you. But then I suppose that makes me one of the people that you hate.
Sunshine, to hate you, I'd have to give a shit about you, and I give less of a shit about you, than I do about a piece of dogshit in the gutter.

Now fuck off home. Your village is missing its idiot.
 

T & P

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The Village has changed over the years but it's unquestionably entering an even bigger change now as the super rich DJ owner expands the space and turns it into a mass marketed destination for affluent tourists to rival Camden.

This is the first time I've ever seen a full page advert for the Village in Time Out and it's clearly targeting a pretty specific demographic which is likely to increase the social division in the community. I find that rather depressing myself but if you just want to shrug your shoulders about it, that's your choice.
Please do not try to equate my opinion that the advert is not particularly newsworthy and will have little impact on matters as they stand because the changes you spoke of have already taken place with me not caring about gentrificaiton and social change in the area.
 

mjd

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Sunshine, to hate you, I'd have to give a shit about you, and I give less of a shit about you, than I do about a piece of dogshit in the gutter.

Now fuck off home. Your village is missing its idiot.
Sensitive about something in particular today? I'm confused though: you say you give "less of a shit about me than...", the implication being that there is still something of a shit being given, albeit less than dogshit in the gutter. I guess that means there's still a small part of me to hate. Phew.

Otherwise, great use of insults. And the (presumbaly) patronising use of "sunshine". 9/10.
 

mjd

Active Member
The second and third words are a lie. You very obviously DON'T think, or you wouldn't spout such trite shite.
I guess we'll remove the part you consider a lie then. Removing the second and third words leaves "FFS...your points are vapid". Let me know if you're happier with that.
 

editor

hiraethified
Please do not try to equate my opinion that the advert is not particularly newsworthy and will have little impact on matters as they stand because the changes you spoke of have already taken place with me not caring about gentrificaiton and social change in the area.
The advert is very clearly a sign of even bigger changes coming to the area, regardless of whether you've decided it's not newsworthy.

Brixton Village is now being advertised via full page spreads in a London-wide magazine as the new destination for affluent tourists. Add in the new 400+ capacity foodie/booze hall that's just been bolted on to the Village - and all the extra-vibrant multi-storey plans for Pope's Road - and it's clear it is of interest.

Quite why you're making such an issue out of my one post is another thing altogether. It wasn't a newspaper headline, but a single post, FFS.
 

urbanspaceman

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Here's a strange thing. For the second time in three days, a person has knocked on my door (on a street very close to Windrush Square), asking whether there are any Spanish speakers living here. He appears to be part of a team canvassing the street. No explanation as to why they are doing this. Can anyone shed any light ?
 

T & P

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Here's a strange thing. For the second time in three days, a person has knocked on my door (on a street very close to Windrush Square), asking whether there are any Spanish speakers living here. He appears to be part of a team canvassing the street. No explanation as to why they are doing this. Can anyone shed any light ?
Spanish-speaking god-botherers. I'm not kidding either.
 

CH1

"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Here's a strange thing. For the second time in three days, a person has knocked on my door (on a street very close to Windrush Square), asking whether there are any Spanish speakers living here. He appears to be part of a team canvassing the street. No explanation as to why they are doing this. Can anyone shed any light ?
When I first moved to Coldharbour Lane (1986) I got an elderly white priest who used to knock on the door asking if there were any Catholics living at my address.

I think these people you are describing are connected to the Holy Rosary Church in Brixton Road nr 336 which appears to have a Latin America cadre if you like and are rounding up their members making sure their eternal souls do not perish.

If it was Momentum canvassing you possibly wouldn't be complaining T&P?
 

GarveyLives

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A bit odd nobody has noted that Coldharbour Lane has been sealed off between Gresham Road and Shakespeare Road since about 7 pm (ie 3 hours at the time of writing).

Something to do with the Domino Club (again). Multiple police cars and ambulances there at 6.30 aprox, but the sealing off came a bit later.

The only bus residents of the CH1 Gramsci zone can catch at the moment seems to be the P5 (once ever 20 minutes).
If this incident is formally linked to the Domino club I suspect the council/police will try to shut it down.

IIRC the last round if incidents led to much stricter licensing rules for them.
https://moderngov.lambeth.gov.uk/documents/b19333/Brixton Domino Community Centre Notice of Decision Thursday 30-Nov-2017 19.00 Licensing Sub-Commi.pdf?T=9

These were the conditions under which they could retain the license
To be fair, the Domino Club had had more than its fair share of incidents over the years so it's not surprising that people thought there may be some connection with this incident.
I notice that the Brixton Domino and Social Club responded to local media regarding the racial onslaught that was directed at them following the killing of 54 year-old Ian Taylor in Coldharbour Lane on the afternoon of Saturday 29 June:

Domino Club criticises knee-jerk blame for local police incidents

Its been very quiet outside the Domino club since the murder on CHL.

No one selling drinks in the courtyard since the murder. Or anyone hanging around.
As it is unclear how much time the members of the Brixton Domino and Social Club spend on this forum, it may be worth pointing out that they appear to have been occupied with a major event recently:

Brixton Immortals take dominoes to Jamaica fun day
 

editor

hiraethified
I notice that the Brixton Domino and Social Club responded to local media regarding the racial onslaught that was directed at them following the killing of 54 year-old Ian Taylor in Coldharbour Lane on the afternoon of Saturday 29 June:

Domino Club criticises knee-jerk blame for local police incidents
Let's be honest. They're hardly the most welcoming place to the community and there has been an absolute shit load of incidents directly related to that club over the years, not that I've ever made a single complaint, mind.

Have you ever been?
 

Gramsci

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I notice that the Brixton Domino and Social Club responded to local media regarding the racial onslaught that was directed at them following the killing of 54 year-old Ian Taylor in Coldharbour Lane on the afternoon of Saturday 29 June:

Domino Club criticises knee-jerk blame for local police incidents



As it is unclear how much time the members of the Brixton Domino and Social Club spend on this forum, it may be worth pointing out that they appear to have been occupied with a major event recently:

Brixton Immortals take dominoes to Jamaica fun day
I find your insinuation that anyone making a comment on the Domino club is racist objectionable.

The quote from me is just a statement of fact. So I don't know how that fits in with your idea that this is part of a "racial onslaught".
 

editor

hiraethified
I find your insinuation that anyone making a comment on the Domino club is racist objectionable.

The quote from me is just a statement of fact. So I don't know how that fits in with your idea that this is part of a "racial onslaught".
It's pathetic to suggest that there was a racial motivation to anyone initially thinking that a violent incident that happened directly outside the Domino Club could possibly be related to the Domino Club, given that club's history.

Not that I recall anyone making such a direct assumption. My first comment was, "Word on the street is that a fight broke out around the Barrier Block lawn and someone was stabbed running past the Domino Club. " That is followed by several other people clearly stating that the incident didn't happen in the Domino club.

Perhaps GarveyLives can give some examples of the "racial onslaught" he claimed happened otherwise he's going to look like a bit of a bullshitter trying to stir up race tension.
 

CH1

"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I want come back on the Domino Club issue. Gramsci is right, objecting to murderous behaviour outside the Domino Club is not racist. In fact I would go further and say that everyone has the right to life, and shielding killers is unhelpful, to say the least.

If you search this forum you will find reference to similar incidents going back over 10 years.

One of the problems seems to be that the Domino Club premises, which is Lambeth Property, is subject to periodic attempts to asset strip. For example there was the Brixton Domino Community Centre which was set p in 2009 by the subscibers below. This is now struck off and defunct, and incidentally only two of the company subscribers even lived in Lambeth.
Brixton Community Domino Club.jpg
Subsequently when another serious incident occured in 2017 it appears Mahamed Hashi was acting as spokesman, at least as far as the licensing committee was concerned. Mahamed Hashi was one of the directors of the Brixton Soup Kitchem operating upstairs in the building. He seems to have resigned as a director of that, but is now apparently "Operations Manager".

I reckon there is some sensitivity regarding the domino club on the part of the council. After all when it was set up one of the members was Cllr Lloyd Leon, one time Mayor of lambeth. He also reprented the Domino Club on the Community/Police Consutlative Group for Lambeth. I recall vividly Linda Bellos justifying her ejection of the Police Consultative Group from Lambeth Town Hall with the words "All you've got to be is a Domino club to be a member of the plice consultative group!"

When the labour left council fell in 1994 the police consutlative group. Lloyd Leon etc were welcomed back with open arms by Gym Dickson (actually he was right on that occasion IMHO).

Now they have Cllr Mahamed Hashi, who also is invovled in Community/police relations - and apparently enjoys a good relationship with the police and those who liaise with them.

Actually if Cllr Mahamed Hashi is the Domino Club's representative I think he should come and discuss residents concerns. After all we've got one murder this year. It would be very welcome if they would do something to stop any more.
 

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teuchter

je suis teuchter
It's fair enough though, isn't it, to say that just because a murder (or any other incident) takes place near the Domino club, it's not necessarily got anything to do with it? Especially if the premises were not even open at the time?
 
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