Brixton news, rumours and general chat - December 2017

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Dec 1, 2017.

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  1. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    TBF, compared to some of the heavily-hopped pales around nowadays, it's only moderately bitter. IIRC it's about 35 "bitterness units" according to Roger Protz, whereas some IPAs are in the upper 40s.
  2. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Youngs at Wandsworth used only water from their own artesian well - that was one of the reasons they couldn't expand capacity - whereas the Charles Wells site in Bedford uses filtered mains water, with additives to give it the same minerals and trace elements as the water from the Youngs well.

    Lots of old-timers around Wandsworth borough went off Youngs when they changed breweries, because the beer "tasted different", and these were often people who didn't know about the Ram brewery closing.
  3. Gramsci

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  4. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    What really winds me up, as ex resident of central Brixton, is that when residents try to put complaints through the proper channels they find they don't work. It's Kafkaesque situation where if one is a reasonable person and tries to do things with though proper channels your ignored.

    I ,as ex central Brixton resident, might think this is deliberate.

    The New Labour Council finds all these " entrepreneurial" entertainment businesses sexy.

    Reminds me of when I first joined Urban when opposing Dogstar Larry , loved by New Labour, and his push to get entertainment empire in central Brixton.
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  5. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    And another thing. In Sleepless in Brixton notes implication that the Council are treating some places differently from others.

    On provision of toilets. Brixton Village, Market Row and Pop aren't obliged to supply the same amount of toilets ( at no charge) than Brixton Academy. Despite user use being comparable.

    Same for need for noise limitation.
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  6. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I've finished the questionnaires on the Local Plan consultation. Still one day to go if you want to do them.

    Worth it as some are about giving property developers easier time. Mainly about protecting industrial space, business space, not allowing watering down of outside space on new housing and allowing less space requirements.

    Housing for Older people is interesting one. I opposed most measures. As seemed to me about allowing property developers to maximize profits.

    Lambeth Local Plan Review 2017 | Lambeth Council
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  7. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    This basically means they weren’t very good at the water additives bit, or the guys in Bedford decided to “improve” it because they “knew best”.

    Read about burtonisation, to understand this - basically breweries all around the world add stuff to their water so the water is the same or more like that in burton upon Trent

    Which is a bit nuts really.

  8. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    I know about Burtonisation from my youth. My dad was a keen home-brewer who was always experimenting to find the perfect pint. :D
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  9. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    These days you can pay someone to test your water and what you need to add to make it perfect, but where is the fun in that !

  10. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    As the chap teaching the London Beer Lab brewing course said: there is lengthy book called Water, widely considered to be the industry authority, which you can read... if you want to suck all the joy out of brewing.
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  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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  12. Brix69

    Brix69 Well-Known Member

    Completed, although there doesn't seem much to guarantee that people filling in the forms are actually from Lambeth or are only filling in one form.
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  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm noticing that perhaps the convenience of Doodle isn't so great when there's hefty queues stretching out into the street.
  14. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    This may be of interest if anyone was going

  15. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    They seem to be falling behind - and not always down to the council.
    In the recent Loco (Loughborough Junction) case the licensee unfortunately had to be in Manchester for a funeral.
    The police and council had been putting the pressure on for several years - I never knew!
    The joy of reading council minutes! Agenda for Licensing Sub-Committee on Tuesday 12 December 2017, 7.00 pm | Lambeth Council
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  17. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Really LJ chat. I use Loco for my cheap Polish lagers and the paypoint.

    Personally I like the place. I enjoy my chats with the Polish manageress mentioned. It always comes across to me as safe place to shop. They have regular customers. And not just for alcohol. They treat there regular customers well. It's a friendly shop.

    What I do find aggravating is that Council come down heavy on shop / off licence like this. In reports emphasis on selling "strong" lagers in single cans..

    Amusing quote from Council officer about seeing "steady sale of cans to male customers". That would be me then.:).

    I can't help but feel there is class issue here. The people I chat to in shop either work in arches, from the estate or are working class Poles who drop in for example.

    It appears "street drinking" is big problem in LJ. According to Council officers. Not that I've seen.

    Drinking and associated ASB under Council definition is big issue now in central Brixton. But that is different class of person. From what I saw couple of Saturday ago when I got off Brixton tube. Drinking and dancing in the street.

    Another reason Council give to crack down on sales of beers in LJ is that a "Recovery centre" is now situated in LJ. So the argument goes LJ should get harder time if it.

    It looks like they are going to get them on "illegal working". That is people who don't have right to be here. Like I care about that.

    That and there paperwork isn't up to date.

    Personally I think for me Loco is well run. I've used it day and at night. I wouldn't use it if I didn't feel safe there.
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  18. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Having read several of the reports it's immigration issue comes up. In the USA some cities have policy that in there boundaries police and local officials can't ask people there immigration status if they are investigating entirely different issue. Such as traffic violation. Here in this country it's getting normal practice,it appears from this license review, to straight off ask about someone's immigration status.

    It's Mays "hostile environment" in practice. I really dislike it.
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  19. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

  20. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I agree with you that there does not seem to be huge evidence of problem drinking in Loughborough Junction.

    Regarding the council minutes the thing that came over strongest to me is the inability of the council to find the shop consistently staffed by a supervisor/manager directly responsible to the licensee and thereby the council as licensing authority.

    Same issue at the Domino Club - which had extensive minutes from another meeting - where the councillors then adjourned to make their decision privately. I wonder if the Domino Club license decision is now published?
  21. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They've got a lovely little kitten in Loco! I can't say I've ever found the place anything but welcoming and I use it at least once a week.
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  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I know it takes all sorts to make the world go around, it must be a particularly small niche who get "pumped up" by brownies.

  23. Maharani

    Maharani Just like Heaven

    Depends what’s in them I suppose...
  24. Angellic

    Angellic Well-Known Member

    'Pumped' rather than 'pumped up'. I'm still none the wiser.
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  25. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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  26. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I like Morleys' Christmas window this year.

  27. hungry_squirrel

    hungry_squirrel Well-Known Member

    Being on a sugar-free diet at the moment they actually look pretty exciting to me...
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Tasty-looking, yes. But are you feeling "pumped" though? That is the question!
  29. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    Isn’t it a joke? they have chocolate from pump st in them
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Maybe I missed that.
    On another note, it doesn't half seem strange having a DJ plying his trade by the entrance to Morleys.

    That must be a tough and unrewarding gig. They sometimes have a DJ in the Oxford Street Topshop and I've always thought it must be crap just playing music to people walking by.
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