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Brixton news, rumours and general chat - August 2017

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. northeast

    northeast Member

  2. EastEnder

    EastEnder Brixton Barnacle

    TBF, your logic is a bit spurious - editor's been putting on nights in Brixton for years, certainly since well before the recent crop of yobbish newcomers.

    I was closer to their age when I first moved to Brixton, and went out to plenty of nights back then - there was always noise & aggro, but nothing like the twattery that blights the streets these days.

    So people who have put on nights in Brixton for years and who didn't used to complain about the after hours behaviour, are now complaining about the after hours behaviour specifically because it's changed so much.

    Is that due to the events themselves, the people putting on those events, or the nature of the people on the streets in contemporary nighttime Brixton?
     
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  3. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I'm not sure how relevant it is, how long a venue/promoter/DJ has been putting on nights in brixton. If there is now a problem, then every venue which opens late and facilitates heavy drinking is part of the problem. Doesn't matter if it's the dogstar or pop brixton or the albert or beach boulevard or whatever. They all spill the drunkards out at the end of the night, having taken their cash at the bar.
     
  4. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Aren't you both saying much the same thing? That it's to some extent pointless railing against individual venues themselves for what is happening in the street. New or old, they all attract an anti social element which it is hard / impossible to control after they leave and spoil things for everyone. And probably even more normally well socialised folk who, in an anonymous crowd and having had a couple, aren't on their best behaviour.

    I don't think there is a particularly different kind of punter now. Even back in the 90s the Dog Star was a destination pub and attracted people from all over the place, including plenty of young professionals wanting to let loose.

    The problem is the licensing and planning policy which allows - even encourages - such proliferation concentrated in one place. If you are going to have triple the number of venues, you'll have triple the number of punters. As well as triple the number of twats. And once general disrespect reaches a certain ubiquitous level everyone's standards drop.
     
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  5. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    I'd add that the venues have to be expected to play their part - significantly. But the council can't encourage a free for all then be surprised when it turns into carnage.
     
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  6. Nanker Phelge

    Nanker Phelge Monkey Boy

    On my shit mobiile... So somehow my answer is in the quote...fuck knows how I did that...

    For once I agrree with Rushy....but the gods of foruns won't allow it to be simple to see


     
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  7. sparkybird

    sparkybird ask the bird...

    I'm my experience of being a woman for quite some time.... Yes
     
  8. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    Would it be unreasonable to point out that your assessments of levels of twattery were carried out, in the earlier instance, by a drunken young person in the midst of it, and in the later instance by a sober old person frowning from the sidelines?
     
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  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    What's changed is that Brixton has turned into a council-sponsored and supported boozing destination of international renown with even less toilets than we had before.

    As a result of new, publicity-scooping trendy venues like Pop, Brixton Beach and all the other chain venues and cocktail bars, the amount of people coming into Brixton to get sloshed every day has soared through the roof, and so it's not surprising there's problems.
     
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  10. David Clapson

    David Clapson Well-Known Member

    Never thought I'd say this, but I wish there were more traffic police. So many bikers whose only mission is to hold the throttle open and make the maximum noise. So many drinkers who park in Rushcroft Road then return to their cars at 3 am completely off their face, have a party in the street with their car stereo, 10 people standing around the car whooping it up. Eventually they drive home, even though they can't walk straight.
     
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  11. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Take their reg, call the cops and report them. They will take drunk driving very seriously.
     
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  12. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I'm all for more traffic police. Seems to be a plague of speeding and aggressive driving at the moment. The 20 mph limit being widely ignored and not enforced in the slightest as far as I can see. I'd put a clampdown on this ahead of anything about drunken youth; it's putting people's lives at risk as well as being a noise nuisance. I'm disturbed at night by speeding motorbikes and cars literally screeching tyres around a nearby corner more than I am by nightclub overspill. I'm not in central Brixton though.
     
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  13. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    As posters know I attend Brixton Neighborhood Forum meetings. The police attend. I'm no great supporter of the Met. But I do understand there problem. Unlike Thatcher the present lot of Tories have been expecting Police to deal with "austerity" cuts.

    The Met are now struggling from what officers who attend Brixton Neighborhood Forum say. I don't think they are exaggerating.

    Simple numbers tell story of police cuts under Theresa May | Alan Travis

    Knife crime, gang issues, drug dealing related to gangs are what they prioritize.

    And now how they are expected to be in high alert because of the recent terrorist attacks.

    So issues you bring up are I reckon low priority. That's not right. But that's how it is.

    From what police officers have said at previous meetings even with dealing with drug dealing on estates and gang issues they are sorely stretched.
     
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  14. shakespearegirl

    shakespearegirl just worked out taglines

    Some things seem to be oddly prioritised. A few months ago I got pickpocketed at Westfield shopping centre in White City. All they got was my travel card and a bank card which I cancelled immediately. I called to get a crime number in case anything got charged to my card and the Met insisted that an officer came and interviewed me the next morning.
     
  15. organicpanda

    organicpanda cat herder extraodinaire

    lack of resources doesn't seem to stop them periodically setting up stop and check on cars (still yet to see a white person stopped at one) on Coldharbour Lane and Brixton Road, there always seems to be about 15 - 20 police then
     
  16. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    Surely this is a residue of the Maybot's "If you're an illegal immigrant we're going to get you" campaign?
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  17. organicpanda

    organicpanda cat herder extraodinaire

    not sure, I've been watching them doing it on Coldharbour for longer than she's been an mp
     
  18. David Clapson

    David Clapson Well-Known Member

    There's a lot of talk about a 'moped/scooter crime wave' in London. Revealed: scooter gangs commit 50,000 crimes in London each year Has there been much of this around here? The only offences I've noticed are people making noise to get attention. So perhaps we should count ourselves lucky that we're not having our phones stolen by people riding on the pavement.
     
  19. colacubes

    colacubes Well-Known Member

    There's certainly been quite a few of these reported round West Norwood and Crystal Palace recently.
     
  20. Lizzy Mac

    Lizzy Mac Well-Known Member

    I often see them fleeing crimes down the side roads in Herne Hill.
    Lots of reports in East Dulwich too.
     
  21. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    Man found injured in Stockwell Road near Brixton Accademy at about 04:15 this morning - rumours of GBH - road reopened about 8 am.
     
  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  23. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The Dip & Flip place on Atlantic Road seems to be flopping spectacularly. It's always empty when I go by. Is it ever busy?
     
  25. David Clapson

    David Clapson Well-Known Member

    Flip flop.
     
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  26. bimble

    bimble Is it Spring yet?

    Sightings of Percy Vere (author of Journey to Youself, and purveyor of second hand teabags) are going to get scarcer as they have just been given an ASBO, I learned today.
     
  27. DietCokeGirl

    DietCokeGirl [Your Ad Here]

    On what grounds, do you know? Seems a bit extreme, there's some agressive beggers I can think of who are more 'antisocial.' And what about all the estate agents??
     
  28. bimble

    bimble Is it Spring yet?

    Agreed. Apparently on the grounds of being nasty to people in general (which there is some truth to, they were in a right bitchy mood today and I regret stopping to attempt a conversation). But also there was apparently an incident related to the piano at Herne Hill station, which Percy does not allow children to play, or something like that.
     
  29. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

    I thought the Tories had scrapped ASBOs a while ago?
     
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  30. bimble

    bimble Is it Spring yet?

    Seems you're right. I have no clue maybe it was all just nonsense then what I got told this afternoon.
    :confused:
     

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