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The refurbed Albert reopens tonight with locals/regulars party :

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Brixton’s Prince Albert pub reopens tonight after extensive, music-focussed refurb (Thurs 1st Sept)

Have they made sure the portrait of Pat is still on display?
 
^ it says 13 people arrested at the tube station yesterday -were they all for separate things? All very odd and a bit scary.

If you mean the cops at the Tube station. They do this every now and again. Get the sniffer dog in. Its an easy operation. Easy to get a few people with a bit of weed. Couple of knives.

Its Met publicity stunt. All it does imo is piss a lot of people off.
 
But when police budgets are overstretched there is bound to be pressure to kill two birds with one stone. So ultimately we can thank the people who traded in worthless mortgage-backed securities for yesterday's spectacle.

To be fair to the local cops. At recent local community meetings where borough top cop has turned up the issue of policing has been discussed. I have said with the way things are going the cops might find themselves involved in more political disputes. ie the Carnegie library occupation. I dont feel the the local commander really wants to get his cops involved when our wonderful New Labour Council decides to antagonise the local community. As in this case. I can imagine he is really pissed off this inept stunt of cracking down on alleged street trading outside Iceland ( like does it bother me? No. Was masses of the public complaining about them? ) by the Council at rush hour ended up involving his cops.
 
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This makes me fucking livid.

Its this kind of thing that triggered off riots back in the 80s- rightly so imo.

Those guys cause outside Iceland cause no problems. I could not give a toss if they sell a few books or not ...

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Clearly, this is a very dangerous, armed and violent man whose reckless actions could have endangered many members of the public.

Does anyone know exactly who he is?
 
The downside of Mr Lee being released without charge is that we won't get to see the above officer giving evidence in court! I'm sure he would have been spectacular, along with all his colleagues who would doubtless have turned up with notebooks full of curiously similar remarks.

But if Mr Lee makes a complaint about being assaulted by the arresting officers, perhaps they will eventually be named and shamed. Don't hold your breath though.
 
To be fair to the local cops. At recent local community meetings where borough top cop has turned up the issue of policing has been discussed. I have said with the way things are going the cops might find themselves involved in more political disputes. ie the Carnegie library occupation. I dont feel the the local commander really wants to get his cops involved when our wonderful New Labour Council decides to antagonise the local community. As in this case. I can imagine he is really pissed off this inept stunt of cracking down on alleged street trading outside Iceland ( like does it bother me? No. Was masses of the public complaining about them? ) by the Council at rush hour ended up involving his cops.
That is why Lord Scarman recommended that local police and the community should regularly meet discuss areas of conflict and potential conflict, and lo the Police/Community Consultative Group for Lambeth was created.

Naturally in the fullness of time it was considered inappropriate to have such a body (despite the idea having been taken up all over the country).

Boris's MOPAC (Mayor's office for Policing and Crime) held a big consultation drive all over London - ours was in the Fridge. And the mighty Stephen Greenhalgh (Deputy Mayor for Policing and Crime) informed the assembled populace [around 500 or so people attended] that "things will be different now - better run, more efficient"

Obviously members of the Community/Police Cosnultative Group for Lambeth complained - as did Tessa Jowell MP, Kate Hoey MP and to his credit Cllr Ed Davie - who gave an impassioned speech about the evils of deaths in custody and the disastrous fate awaiting many people with serious mental health issues who find themselves in contact with the police.

There is no forum presently for discussing police/community tensions. Only Neighbourhood Policing panels - open to members of the public only by invitation, the "guest list" being operated by the Police. These panels are designed to advise the police on what crimes the invited members of the public want sorted out.

It would be perfectly possible that one of more members of the Coldharbour Ward Neighbourhood Panel suggested the Police should "sort out" the situation outside Iceland. It's the sort of petty issue they come up with. I can't say whether this happened though because I haven't been invited for a year or so. Or maybe they haven't had any Neighbourhood Panel meetings for Coldharbour Ward since a year ago.

Can anybody through some light on this?
 
From Inspector Dan Rutland's email:
You may have seen a news article on ITV or in the Evening Standard last night, about a disturbance outside the tube Brixton
- The incident came about after a council enforcement officer asked an illegal trader/s to move on. This resulted in a minor disturbance that looked a lot worse that it was. This was due to the volume of people coming in and out of the station during rush hour. Three people were arrested and taken to Brixton for assault on police and public order.

Inspector Rutland and Lambeth Trading Standards need to brush up on what constitutes illegal trading. Giving away books is not trading, and neither is soliciting donations from a static position, according to Lambeth's own by-laws.

Fuck these arseholes and their ressources-wasting bullshit, and their persecution of people. Cunts!
 
I reckon the guy in the white shirt doing all the talking is Trading Standards. He probably asked in advance for police support because he was intending to seize the books. So the police said "we'll have loads of officers there on Thursday to search for knives in the tube station, they can back you up." With the benefit of hindsight police and trading standards will be saying that evening rush hour was a terrible time to be shutting down a trader in a public place. But when police budgets are overstretched there is bound to be pressure to kill two birds with one stone. So ultimately we can thank the people who traded in worthless mortgage-backed securities for yesterday's spectacle.

In all the years I've seen the book guys there, I've never seen price tickets on the book, and never seen money changing hands for books. Typical over-reaction by Lambeth and the OB.
 
To be fair to the local cops. At recent local community meetings where borough top cop has turned up the issue of policing has been discussed. I have said with the way things are going the cops might find themselves involved in more political disputes. ie the Carnegie library occupation. I dont feel the the local commander really wants to get his cops involved when our wonderful New Labour Council decides to antagonise the local community. As in this case. I can imagine he is really pissed off this inept stunt of cracking down on alleged street trading outside Iceland ( like does it bother me? No. Was masses of the public complaining about them? ) by the Council at rush hour ended up involving his cops.

From what I can make out, Lambeth has upped its hassling of street traders (licenced and unlicenced) in the borough massively over the past 6 months, hassling licenced traders over supposed pitch violations, and unlicenced traders for existing. I don't know whether this is happening for any good reason, but I AM aware that the "events company" that ran Lambeth Country Show for the council this year managed to milk traders, and attempted to intimidate anyone who even looked like they might be traders - park visitors with those little picnic tables, for example.
 
The bookseller outside Iceland was apparently arrested tonight; there's an appeal for witnesses on Twitter

That arrest was of Solomon Lee, Bunny Striker Lee's son. He was pepper-sprayed.

I've seen the video of the arrest and it escalated from nothing into almost a major incident because the police were looking to dominate rather than just talk a non-problematic situation through.
 
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<snip> I've seen the video of the arrest and it escalated from nothing into almost a major incident because the police were looking to dominate rather than just talk a non-problematic situation through.
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In all the years I've seen the book guys there, I've never seen price tickets on the book, and never seen money changing hands for books. Typical over-reaction by Lambeth and the OB.

Someone I know asked recently about buying a book on Prince. The guy told him the price was £87.00.
 
The downside of Mr Lee being released without charge is that we won't get to see the above officer giving evidence in court! I'm sure he would have been spectacular, along with all his colleagues who would doubtless have turned up with notebooks full of curiously similar remarks.

But if Mr Lee makes a complaint about being assaulted by the arresting officers, perhaps they will eventually be named and shamed. Don't hold your breath though.
I spoke to Solomon (sp?) today. He was phoned by a senior officer (maybe the top guy...) today, who explained the procedure for making a complaint and who gave him his direct number if he wanted to go that route.

Solomon explained he didn't want to start a war with the police: all he wants to do is to get on with his job and all the media furore (and its attendant mischief-makers and trolls) are stopping that work. Solomon is a rasta but he's a quiet-spoken man, not a fire-bun fighter against Babylon. He has a charity and he has a job to do and that's what he wants to get on with. He has spent the day dodging calls from the BBC among others. He knows he has no media training and he doesn't want to risk making the situation worse or expressing his position badly.

He is going to stay quiet for a few days to let things settle down. He hasn't yet decided about the complaint thing. He was jumped on by three police: a metropolitan copper, a plain-clothes one and a transport policeman. It is the transport policeman who lost control the most because he was punching Solomon even as he lay, not struggling, on the ground. That, Solomon reckons, was totally out of order.
 
Poor guy. Obviously it's his decision, but I really hope he does make the complaint - those bastards shouldn't be able to get away with it.
I've just watched the video. It's utterly disgraceful.

I can't understand why it should even be on his head to make a complaint - there's enough clear evidence for the Police to take action against their own irrespective of whether he wants the media attention of instigating it himself.
 
It must be hard to know what's for the best. I'm sure Solomon/Sulaiman's solicitor can advise on whether a complaint would succeed. If a complaint does succeed, senior officers take notice and it has an adverse effect on the officer at fault. As for the legality of the Trading Standards guy trying to pack up the stall or seize the books or whatever he was trying to do, who knows? I wonder if the action was prompted by a complaint? I can't see how the community's interests were served by it. Hopefully Brixton Bugle will keep us all in the loop.
 
<snip> Hopefully Brixton Bugle will keep us all in the loop.
The same rag describing a red glitter bomb as "red powder symbolising blood" and neglecting to mention the googly eyes lobbed during the same council meeting or what they symbolised? Don't hold yer breath, mate.
 
Yeah, Bugle/blog makes me cringe,and not just because they edited my wonderful review of Speedy Noodle beyond recognition.
 
Reminds me of another guy who the authorities tried to move on. The guy who used to carry a load of incense sticks and sell them outside the Tube. In the end he was left alone.

Have not seen him for a long time. Wonder what happened to him.

'Patrick', broke his leg in a motorcycle accident. Not been around the tube selling his incense sticks due to his injures/ inabilities.
 
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