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editor

hiraethified
do you think the laundry are so desperate for positive press they are paying people to write nonsense positive press on forums which hate them ?

I’d have thought they’d be better off spending more time on trip advisor
Exactly how does this forum " hate" them exactly? There's already been some positive reviews of the place from some posters, so once again you are talking confused and misleading nonsense.

And what makes you think they haven't already added positive reviews on other sites like TripAdvisor? :confused:

As for me, I don't hate the place, I just couldn't give a shit about them, just like they couldn't give a shit for the poorer members of the community they've set up shop in.
 

Marilla

New Member
LOL I would love to be paid to post reviews on the internet, but unfortunately that’s not the case. However, I would accept offers in case any Brixton restaurant owner is reading this :rolleyes:

I have just registered and posted the review about the restaurant because that’s what was being discussed at the time I signed up and I ate there a couple of weeks ago. No special feelings for the restaurant itself.
 

David Clapson

Infamous Knob
The sort of people who post reviews on the internet are best ignored. Review sites are 99% garbage, just like social media. I only reviewed the Laundry here to troll the editor into fucking up his site a bit more.
 

blameless77

Well-Known Member
which is presumably why you are being so sarcastic in reply to one of them
The sort of people who post reviews on the internet are best ignored. Review sites are 99% garbage, just like social media. I only reviewed the Laundry here to troll the editor into fucking up his site a bit more.
It’s trolls like you who are destroying this site. Surely this blatant provocation deserves a ban? It’s been obvious for a while that he’s only on here to wind people up, but to admit it!
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
LOL I would love to be paid to post reviews on the internet, but unfortunately that’s not the case. However, I would accept offers in case any Brixton restaurant owner is reading this :rolleyes:

I have just registered and posted the review about the restaurant because that’s what was being discussed at the time I signed up and I ate there a couple of weeks ago. No special feelings for the restaurant itself.
Your profile says your member since July 2nd 2019. So you haven't just signed up.
 

CH1

"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Did they ever say why they didn’t take up your ideas? I ask because there could be many reasons - the difficulties of implementation or deciding eligibility that I referred to in my last post, or that they couldn’t make the numbers stack up (in a trade where margins - for independents especially - are notoriously wafer-thin) or that there was insufficient demand or space in the slots they could make available, and so on. I don’t know who it is you refer to, and have no desire to provide a defence. I just wonder why you feel they actively abandoned their proactively expressed intentions and refocused on an affluent audience?

Re The Laundry - I can’t get excited about them either positively or negatively. Just another fairly identikit independent restaurant taking up a lease in a developer’s refit of an old industrial building. A symptom rather than a cause. They’re not displacing an existing business (since Walton Lodge closed for their own reasons two or three years back), and unlike the many bookies and payday loan shops hereabouts, they’re not actively preying on vulnerable people.

I’d love to support businesses that directly give back to their neighbourhood, or that make their offer open to a broader sector of society than those than can pay full rates. Right now I wouldn’t even know how to look them up.
Brixton Brewery put this through my letterbox some months ago.
Not sure if it's expired. And I'm not sure if they did the whole of Brixton or just Coldharbour Lane.
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editor

hiraethified
Brixton Brewery put this through my letterbox some months ago.
Not sure if it's expired. And I'm not sure if they did the whole of Brixton or just Coldharbour Lane.
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I never got one, not that I need or want a Brixton Brewery pint glass. Shame they couldn't donate the 50p or whatever it costs to local charities instead.
 

Marilla

New Member
Your profile says your member since July 2nd 2019. So you haven't just signed up.
Does that mean I have just been waiting for the Laundry to open up so I could leave a review on here? I do hope they read this forum and give me a discount next visit! I have never had to give this amount of explanation for a review... even more a positive one. It doesn’t seem to be the same treatment for the people that left negative reviews for them. I wonder why :rolleyes:

Btw, I am happy to review any other place in Brixton. If you want to pick them it’s fine as long as I’m allowed to give my personal opinion even if doesn’t please the editor :)
 

editor

hiraethified
Does that mean I have just been waiting for the Laundry to open up so I could leave a review on here? I do hope they read this forum and give me a discount next visit! I have never had to give this amount of explanation for a review... even more a positive one. It doesn’t seem to be the same treatment for the people that left negative reviews for them. I wonder why :rolleyes:

Btw, I am happy to review any other place in Brixton. If you want to pick them it’s fine as long as I’m allowed to give my personal opinion even if doesn’t please the editor :)
You're absolutely free to post any reviews you like about any Brixton venues you like, although I hope they're a little more critical than your last gushgasm.
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
Does that mean I have just been waiting for the Laundry to open up so I could leave a review on here? I do hope they read this forum and give me a discount next visit! I have never had to give this amount of explanation for a review... even more a positive one. It doesn’t seem to be the same treatment for the people that left negative reviews for them. I wonder why :rolleyes:

Btw, I am happy to review any other place in Brixton. If you want to pick them it’s fine as long as I’m allowed to give my personal opinion even if doesn’t please the editor :)
All I did was check your profile and point out that you had not just signed up to this site.

What you said in your post ( 1744 on this thread ) was this:
I have just registered and posted the review about the restaurant because that’s what was being discussed at the time I signed up
All I did was point out this wasn't the case. You joined 2nd July 2019.

I made a purely factual post.

Your reading into my purely factual post things that I never said or implied.

So you do accept what Im saying is correct and you saying you "have just registered" was incorrect?
 
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Gramsci

Well-Known Member
Does that mean I have just been waiting for the Laundry to open up so I could leave a review on here? I do hope they read this forum and give me a discount next visit! I have never had to give this amount of explanation for a review... even more a positive one. It doesn’t seem to be the same treatment for the people that left negative reviews for them. I wonder why :rolleyes:

Btw, I am happy to review any other place in Brixton. If you want to pick them it’s fine as long as I’m allowed to give my personal opinion even if doesn’t please the editor :)
I haven't a posted a view here on the Laundry. Nor am I asking you for an explanation. This is a free site. Your at liberty to review any establishment you want. I don't understand why you are assuming I might want to pick them.
 

T & P

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It’s rather telling though sadly not surprising at all to see the contrast between the “welcome” and subsequent treatment new member Marilla has received here so far, and that of another new poster in the Squire and Partners thread back in March (post no. 512 and onwards).

In that instance, a new member to the boards posted an comment that happened to be critical of Squire and Partners. There were elements of the post that seemed contradictory to an established poster, which prompted him to ask the new poster if a particular aspect of the post might amount to double standards.

Cue much indignation from some quarters by the very suggestion of it, complete with accusations of the established poster who made that comment of 'having a go' at the new poster, and his post of being 'insulting and nonsense'. A completely out of order and unacceptable way to greet a new arrival to the forum, by any account.

Fast forward nine months, and when another new poster expresses an opinion that appears to be off-message with some, they are rewarded with a condescending reply and a succession of subsequent exchanges that are pretty fucking far from welcoming, and by the very same people who were crying foul about about another new member being challenged on their initial post to boot.

A cynic might be tempted to conclude that brand new members to the Brixton forum must be afforded the friendliest & most uncritical welcome possible- unless of course their initial post offers a differing opinion to one’s own viewpoint on any given subject- in which case, release the hounds!
 
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editor

hiraethified
It’s rather telling though sadly not surprising at all to see the contrast between the “welcome” and subsequent treatment new member Marilla has received here so far, and that of another new poster in the Squire and Partners thread back in March (post no. 512 and onwards).

In that instance, a new member to the boards posted an comment that happened to be critical of Squire and Partners. There were elements of the post that seemed contradictory to an established poster, which prompted him to ask the new poster if a particular aspect of the post might amount to double standards.

Cue much indignation from some quarters by the very suggestion of it, complete with accusations of the established poster who made that comment of 'having a go' at the new poster, and his post of being 'insulting and nonsense'. A completely out of order and unacceptable way to greet a new arrival to the forum, by any account.

Fast forward nine months, and when another new poster expresses an opinion that appears to be off-message with some, they are rewarded with a condescending reply and a succession of subsequent exchanges that are pretty fucking far from welcoming, and by the very same people who were crying foul about about another new member being challenged on their initial post to boot.

A cynic might be tempted to conclude that brand new members to the Brixton forum must be afforded the friendliest & most uncritical welcome possible- unless of course their initial post offers a differing opinion to one’s own viewpoint on any given subject- in which case, release the hounds!
Cool story bro'. Could you remind me what the nasty, terrible, terrible first response was to this brand new poster who had just rocked up to make one post that was a thoroughly gushing review of a new business?

And then, perhaps, you could quote the "pretty fucking far from welcoming" other responses to date, just so people can square your version of events with reality and the claim that the "hounds" have been released.

I've no interest in wasting my time trawling through the other thread to see whatever convoluted point it is you're trying to make. Cross-thread crap like that is boring as fuck.
 

editor

hiraethified
This thread is getting daft... I keep thinking I might post something but all the beef and sniping and cut across from other threads is too much
Given that we've had one poster announcing that it's his stated aim to "fuck up the site," and now another trying to dredge in some futile point-scoring from another thread, it's becoming clear who are the ones who want to trash the discussion.

Please post what you were going to post. This thread needs some sensible, relevant discourse!
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
It’s rather telling though sadly not surprising at all to see the contrast between the “welcome” and subsequent treatment new member Marilla has received here so far, and that of another new poster in the Squire and Partners thread back in March (post no. 512 and onwards).

In that instance, a new member to the boards posted an comment that happened to be critical of Squire and Partners. There were elements of the post that seemed contradictory to an established poster, which prompted him to ask the new poster if a particular aspect of the post might amount to double standards.

Cue much indignation from some quarters by the very suggestion of it, complete with accusations of the established poster who made that comment of 'having a go' at the new poster, and his post of being 'insulting and nonsense'. A completely out of order and unacceptable way to greet a new arrival to the forum, by any account.

Fast forward nine months, and when another new poster expresses an opinion that appears to be off-message with some, they are rewarded with a condescending reply and a succession of subsequent exchanges that are pretty fucking far from welcoming, and by the very same people who were crying foul about about another new member being challenged on their initial post to boot.

A cynic might be tempted to conclude that brand new members to the Brixton forum must be afforded the friendliest & most uncritical welcome possible- unless of course their initial post offers a differing opinion to one’s own viewpoint on any given subject- in which case, release the hounds!
Just to be clear as you posted this just below my post your not referring to me?
 

brixtonblade

Well-Known Member
Given that we've had one poster announcing that it's his stated aim to "fuck up the site," and now another trying to dredge in some pointless point-scoring from another thread, it's becoming clear who are the ones who want to trash the discussion.

Please post what you were going to post. This thread needs some sensible, relevant discourse because there is a lot to talk about.
Ive had a pint and I don't think I can craft something sufficiently nuanced to avoid someone or other taking umbridge

I did wonder whether it might be worth having 2 different threads - one for "standard" reviews about a place and another to discuss the planning, effect on the neighbourhood, impact on community etc.
 

editor

hiraethified
Ive had a pint and I don't think I can craft something sufficiently nuanced to avoid someone or other taking umbridge

I did wonder whether it might be worth having 2 different threads - one for "standard" reviews about a place and another to discuss the planning, effect on the neighbourhood, impact on community etc.
I think the thread can accommodate both - they are intertwined after all - but there's no hope of any sensible debate if wannabe trolls are going to make up shit just to 'fuck up the site' or people try and drag in unrelated personal guff from other threads containing hundreds of posts.

And in the hope of getting this back on topic: has anyone been able to confirm that Brewdog actually is up for sale, and does anyone have an opening date for the dire-sounding Meat Liquor place in Electric Lane?
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
Ive had a pint and I don't think I can craft something sufficiently nuanced to avoid someone or other taking umbridge

I did wonder whether it might be worth having 2 different threads - one for "standard" reviews about a place and another to discuss the planning, effect on the neighbourhood, impact on community etc.
This is an old thread. I've just gone and looked at the first two pages from 2011. Brixton was a different place. This thread reflects the gradual gentrification of the area. Which is why it's got so unpleasant now. Its wasn't at the start.

Personally I'm of a mind to put this thread on ignore. Its for me to much of a wind up every time I look at it. In all my years here I've never contemplated putting a Brixton thread on ignore. I try to be civil here. But looking at the start of this thread and I don't like what has happened to Brixton.
 
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T & P

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Cool story bro'. Could you remind me what the nasty, terrible, terrible first response was to this brand new poster who had just rocked up to make one post that was a thoroughly gushing review of a new business?

And then, perhaps, you could quote the "pretty fucking far from welcoming" other responses to date, just so people can square your version of events with reality and the claim that the "hounds" have been released.

I've no interest in wasting my time trawling through the other thread to see whatever convoluted point it is you're trying to make. Cross-thread crap like that is boring as fuck.
First case I referenced: A poster challenged a small, specific portion of a new member’s post by asking nothing more or less offensive than “Are we talking double standards here?”

You and Gramsci thought that simple one intervention was hostile and unwelcoming towards a brand new member to the boards. If you still don’t remember it you can refresh your memory from a few posts down this page
Second case is obviously the treatment this new poster in this thread has received from you and one or two others.

Bottom line: if asking a new poster “Are we talking double standards here?” is unwelcoming or constitutes ‘having a go’ or being ‘insulting and nonsense’ (as you yourself and others said in Case 1), then there is no fucking way, not in a million years, than your initial reply to new poster Marilla “Awesome. I’m so happy for you” is any different.

I really hope you’re not going to try to tell us your “Awesome. I’m so happy for you” reply to the new poster ITT was not unwelcoming or unfriendly but someone else asking “Are we talking double standards here” is. As it happens I’d wager most people would judge your reply more unwelcoming than the other one. But at any rate not any less unwelcoming by any measure.
 

T & P

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Just to be clear as you posted this just below my post your not referring to me?
Partly, simply because you were one of the posters involved in case 1. See my post above.

To keep it short, do you agree that in hindsight that your reaction to the interaction and alleged treatment of a new poster in the S&P thread in March is not consistent with your and others’ reaction to what is in essence the same scenario, namely a new poster expressing an opinion in this forum?
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
Partly, simply because you were one of the posters involved in case 1. See my post above.

To keep it short, do you agree that in hindsight that your reaction to the interaction and alleged treatment of a new poster in the S&P thread in March is not consistent with your and others’ reaction to what is in essence the same scenario, namely a new poster expressing an opinion in this forum?
"Others" can speak for themselves.

On the issue you appear to be alluding on the recent page of this thread what I posted was this:

I haven't a posted a view here on the Laundry. Nor am I asking you for an explanation. This is a free site. Your at liberty to review any establishment you want.
So the answer is no.
 
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editor

hiraethified
First case I referenced: A poster challenged a small, specific portion of a new member’s post by asking nothing more or less offensive than “Are we talking double standards here?”

You and Gramsci thought that simple one intervention was hostile and unwelcoming towards a brand new member to the boards. If you still don’t remember it you can refresh your memory from a few posts down this page
Second case is obviously the treatment this new poster in this thread has received from you and one or two others.

Bottom line: if asking a new poster “Are we talking double standards here?” is unwelcoming or constitutes ‘having a go’ or being ‘insulting and nonsense’ (as you yourself and others said in Case 1), then there is no fucking way, not in a million years, than your initial reply to new poster Marilla “Awesome. I’m so happy for you” is any different.

I really hope you’re not going to try to tell us your “Awesome. I’m so happy for you” reply to the new poster ITT was not unwelcoming or unfriendly but someone else asking “Are we talking double standards here” is. As it happens I’d wager most people would judge your reply more unwelcoming than the other one. But at any rate not any less unwelcoming by any measure.
I've absolutely no idea why you're working yourself up into a major froth over this and insisting that people start referencing a completely unrelated thread from over a year ago, but I sure as hell can't be bothered with it.

This thread is about new food and drink outlets in Brixton. Everyone Is entitled to an opinion on that topic, but you banging on about "Case 1" like it's some sort of vital, ongoing courtroom cross-examination is, frankly, completely fucking unhinged.
 

editor

hiraethified
Anyway, back to Brixton food. I looked up Meat Liquor to see if they'd announced a date for their Brixton opening but only came across this. Now, admittedly, I don't eat meat, but even if there was a veggie version that looked like this, it would still look horrible.

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it just looks like a celebration of triple-burger, fat-dribbling gluttony to me but does this kind of thing appeal to people here? I mean, I like burgers but this thing just looks revolting.

And this reads like Chris Morris's Blue Jam Bar Guide:

SET IN AN OLD CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY (COMPLETE WITH STAINED GLASS WINDOWS AND A CONFESSIONAL BOX PHOTO BOOTH)

Brixton cocktail bars are starting to sound like the pisstake Bar Guide by Chris Morris
 
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T & P

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"Others" can speak for themselves.

On the issue you appear to be alluding on the recent page if this thread what I have posted is this:



So the answer is no.
Let me shorten my question as much as I can

In this thread you strongly objected to a new poster being challenged with nothing more offensive than the question “Doesn’t that amount to double standards?”, and went on to express your opinion that the poster who asked that question was having a go at the new poster. And also made it undoubtedly clear in your subsequent posts that you thought that contribution amounted to being hostile, or at the very least unwelcoming and in detriment of the forum.

So my question is, do you agree or disagree that some of replies in this thread to new poster Marilla are similarly unwelcoming and in detriment of the forum as those in the S&P thread you personally objected to?
 

editor

hiraethified
Let me shorten my question as much as I can

In this thread you strongly objected to a new poster being challenged with nothing more offensive than the question “Doesn’t that amount to double standards?”, and went on to express your opinion that the poster who asked that question was having a go at the new poster. And also made it undoubtedly clear in your subsequent posts that you thought that contribution amounted to being hostile, or at the very least unwelcoming and in detriment of the forum.

So my question is, do you agree or disagree that some of replies in this thread to new poster Marilla are similarly unwelcoming and in detriment of the forum as those in the S&P thread you personally objected to?
Let me make it crystal clear for you: no one gives a flying fuck what happened in some totally unrelated thread from over a year ago.

This is a thread about Brixton food and drink establishments. If you want to keep on pretending you're some kind of hotshot layer wowing the folks in the gallery with your devastating wit in the unfolding drama of 'CASE 1,' I suggest you start a new thread in an appropriate forum, because you'll be hoofed off this thread if you continue this disruptive and bloody weird behaviour.
 

T & P

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I've absolutely no idea why you're working yourself up into a major froth over this and insisting that people start referencing a completely unrelated thread from over a year ago, but I sure as hell can't be bothered with it.

This thread is about new food and drink outlets in Brixton. Everyone Is entitled to an opinion on that topic, but you banging on about "Case 1" like it's some sort of vital, ongoing courtroom cross-examination is, frankly, completely fucking unhinged.
I thought it’d be crystal clear: in one case we have heavy objections from you and at least one other poster to a new member simply being challenged by another poster, and in another the very same people who complained about new posters being given a rough treatment are either directly involved in giving another new poster the very same welcome or subsequently challenging them.

The subject of the threads in question is completely irrelevant. The issue here is the completely opposite treatment of a new poster in here, seemly depending on whether you agree or disagree with their viewpoint.

Either both new posters were treated disrespectfully or neither were. The subject of the thread or the time elapsed are completely irrelevant to the issue. Unless you perhaps believe the double standards question by the established poster in the other was disrespectful, but your ‘Awesome. I’m so happy for you’ retort to Marilla here was not.
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
Let me shorten my question as much as I can

In this thread you strongly objected to a new poster being challenged with nothing more offensive than the question “Doesn’t that amount to double standards?”, and went on to express your opinion that the poster who asked that question was having a go at the new poster. And also made it undoubtedly clear in your subsequent posts that you thought that contribution amounted to being hostile, or at the very least unwelcoming and in detriment of the forum.

So my question is, do you agree or disagree that some of replies in this thread to new poster Marilla are similarly unwelcoming and in detriment of the forum as those in the S&P thread you personally objected to?
I've already given you a reply to your original question.
 
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