Brixton churches

[ringo]

Really? I thought St Mark's was run by the vicar, one Robert de Berry, a white guy who lives in the St Marks' vicarage.

You could be right, I was basing that on my daughter's Xmas carol service there which the Nigerian head of her nursery was pastor for. Perhaps they all share it, don't know much about the machinations of the church.

I love the windows of St Giles, didn't know about the interior so thanks, will go and check it out.

 

[pinewood]

Corpus Christi is that it's no longer run by the Jesuits.

Who is running Corpus Christi nowadays - an other religious order or "normal" priests?!?

 

[han]

What street is Corpus Christi on ?

I used to go to a happy clappy (Anglican) church in Bristol....it was load of fun, and actually I really miss the ritual of going to church and meeting loads of local old fogies etc.

Are there any really liberal churches in Brixton where believing in God isn't a prerequisite?!

The whole ritual of going to church, meeting people from all walks of life from your local area is very . Tis a shame about the belief systems. It would be nice to have some kind of pagan/atheist gathering and singsong every Sunday...

 

[pooka]

Not forgetting the Bible Truth Church of God Inc, who take a very lively approach to worship. Very friendly and helpful neighbours to us, apart from the new 'bishop', who cannot concieve that anyone can do other then believe in his god and acts accordingly! His clinching arguement is....there must be a God otherwise the Queen Mum would have lived for ever, with doctors swapping bits and pieces on the Queen's orders. Well, that's put Richard Dawkins in his box!

 

[lang rabbie]

Are there any really liberal churches in Brixton where believing in God isn't a prerequisite?!

I get the impression that the Unitarians don't ask too many questions about exactly what their congregation believe in. Their church on Effra Road is supposedly quite friendly.

 

[newbie]

What street is Corpus Christi on ?

great big one opposite the end of Water Lane, by the college.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

great big one opposite the end of Water Lane, by the college.

Lambert

 

[han]

I get the impression that the Unitarians don't ask too many questions about exactly what their congregation believe in. Their church on Effra Road is supposedly quite friendly.

Nice one!

 

[han]

great big one opposite the end of Water Lane, by the college.

Oh really, wow. I've been in there. It's lovely.

 

[brix]

I've always been interested in the Italian church (Chiesa del Redentore I think it's called) on Brixton Road, near Oval. It's quite a discreet entrance but with a lovely gold mosaic over the door. Always seem to be bustling on a Sunday.

 

[pooka]

Oh really, wow. I've been in there. It's lovely.

The architect was the guy who subsequently designed Westminster Cathedral. Apparently they ran out of money on Corpus Christi, which is why it is oddly curtailed. It was meant to go much further back.

Oh, and just discovered here, it was built on the site of a house owned by Thomas Bailey, who built the Alms Houses on Acre Lane

 

[lang rabbie]

I've always been interested in the Italian church (Chiesa del Redentore I think it's called) on Brixton Road, near Oval. It's quite a discreet entrance but with a lovely gold mosaic over the door. Always seem to be bustling on a Sunday.

I think the Scalabrini Fathers have only been there since the 1970s. Did this one have a previous life as a nonconformist chapel that became surplus to requirements when all the sects of methodists and presbyerians merged.

Our Lady of the Rosary at the other end of Brixton Road has only been an RC church since the 1950s - it was built as the Brixton Independent Church.

 

[pinewood]

I've always been interested in the Italian church (Chiesa del Redentore I think it's called) on Brixton Road, near Oval. It's quite a discreet entrance but with a lovely gold mosaic over the door.

I remember the church - and the mosaic - from the 80`s.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I've always been interested in the Italian church (Chiesa del Redentore I think it's called)

Chiesa del Redentore - Church of the Redeemer


I just googled that as I've always been curious what it meant

 

[CH1]

Not forgetting the Bible Truth Church of God Inc, who take a very lively approach to worship. Very friendly and helpful neighbours to us, apart from the new 'bishop', who cannot concieve that anyone can do other then believe in his god and acts accordingly! His clinching arguement is....there must be a God otherwise the Queen Mum would have lived for ever, with doctors swapping bits and pieces on the Queen's orders. Well, that's put Richard Dawkins in his box!

Excuse the super-bump, but can't find a more suitable place to puff this evening's handiwork http://www.brixtonsociety.org.uk/2013/10/27/distinctive-chapel-seeks-controversial-revamp/

 

[Manter]

Excuse the super-bump, but can't find a more suitable place to puff this evening's handiwork http://www.brixtonsociety.org.uk/2013/10/27/distinctive-chapel-seeks-controversial-revamp/

That's interesting. The new building looks like a block of flats IMO, and would be a shame to lose the historic tin but, but I can see it doesn't really work for them as a building given the facilities they're planning...

 

[Gramsci]

Excuse the super-bump, but can't find a more suitable place to puff this evening's handiwork http://www.brixtonsociety.org.uk/2013/10/27/distinctive-chapel-seeks-controversial-revamp/

Not sure its a good idea to build flats above a church. Cannot see how that is going to work. Unless you like being woken up Sunday mornings after a night of sinful drinking by God Botherers.

Usual bland design as well.

 

[CH1]

Not sure its a good idea to build flats above a church. Cannot see how that is going to work. Unless you like being woken up Sunday mornings after a night of sinful drinking by God Botherers.
Usual bland design as well.

You could read the Brixton Society response on the Lambeth planning website - but I believe we did say the design was more in keeping with Brixton Square or "New Albamarle" which is being built next to the skate board place than with the cottages in Hetherington Road.
Several similar corrugated iron structures in other parts of the country are listed eg: http://tintabernaclekilburn.org.uk
As for noise/tambourine issues - noise proofing can be very effective these days I'm told. Even so the freehold will presumably belong to the church, so tenants or leaseholders of the flats would just have to suffer!

 

[gaijingirl]

The whole ritual of going to church, meeting people from all walks of life from your local area is very . Tis a shame about the belief systems. It would be nice to have some kind of pagan/atheist gathering and singsong every Sunday...

this thread has been bumped.. so saw your post again - but there is some movement for this - saw something about it on a Crystal Palace forum. Can't remember what it's called and no idea if it's a front for something dodgy... but the basic idea seems to be what you say above.

 

[CH1]

this thread has been bumped.. so saw your post again - but there is some movement for this - saw something about it on a Crystal Palace forum. Can't remember what it's called and no idea if it's a front for something dodgy... but the basic idea seems to be what you say above.

The whole ritual of going to church, meeting people from all walks of life from your local area is very . Tis a shame about the belief systems. It would be nice to have some kind of pagan/atheist gathering and singsong every Sunday...

That's the Sunday Assembly. Was an Evening Standard mag article about them last Friday: http://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle...-the-sunday-assembly-takes-a-pew-8916128.html
They are currently using Conway Hall: http://www.conwayhall.org.uk/sunday-assembly-2 but having a South London launch on 30th Nov. at Crystal Palace.
Seems some Crystal Palace residents are complaining - and there is controversy on East Dulwich Forum.
Sounds like pentecostal atheism to me - and it is getting the same sort of objections.

 

[gaijingirl]

CH1 - yeah that's the one. Never heard of Pentecostal atheism before! What are the objections?

 

[CH1]

CH1 - yeah that's the one. Never heard of Pentecostal atheism before! What are the objections?

Noise, massive congregation leading to parking problems and possible manipulation by "pastors".

 

[kittyP]

this thread has been bumped.. so saw your post again - but there is some movement for this - saw something about it on a Crystal Palace forum. Can't remember what it's called and no idea if it's a front for something dodgy... but the basic idea seems to be what you say above.

I was watching something the other day (possibly on the news) about groups of atheists and agnostics, meeting in a church hall, to sing and listen to talks etc, practically the same as a church service but without the religious aspect.
It looked very cool.

 

[CH1]

I was watching something the other day (possibly on the news) about groups of atheists and agnostics, meeting in a church hall, to sing and listen to talks etc, practically the same as a church service but without the religious aspect.
It looked very cool.

Must have been this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24767637
Sunday Assembly inaugural meeting somewhat ironically held at Cross Street Unitarian Chapel in central Manchester.

 

[Winot]

I was watching something the other day (possibly on the news) about groups of atheists and agnostics, meeting in a church hall, to sing and listen to talks etc, practically the same as a church service but without the religious aspect.
It looked very cool.

Sounds like parts of the Church of England.

 

[ibilly99]

We've had this one before haven't we Minnie?


There is something about those kids in oversized ('you'll grow into it') suit jackets that is disturbing. Too many of them look like shrunken security guards with their blazers and grey pants - as if Lidl's have begun buying their door staff on their cheap.

And, after living, near the aforementioned Ruach ministry for a few years, I've got to say the attraction of spiffingly dressed churchgoers wears out very quickly. My god - the noise every Sunday morning of people slamming car doors, shouting at their pals and clip-clopping in high heels like a herd of demented wilderbeest can be unbelievable. Add the noise to the legions of double-parked vehicles and it's enough to lead you to the conclusion that churchgoers must be amongst the most inconsiderate bunch of numpties possible..

Soon whenever that is to be a Church mega city in Norbury - Let Jesus Reign - Hallelujah !

 

[CH1]

Soon whenever that is to be a Church mega city in Norbury - Let Jesus Reign - Hallelujah !

Thanks for posting that. It truly represents the Ruarch ethos - everything to everybody. Meditation space, photovoltaic cells, an Academy school, 5-a-side hockey pitches, wind turbines. What doesn't it have?
Seems to be in the Croydon part of Norbury though - which leaves the question of what will happen to Ruarch Brixton Hill? Will it be a sort of satellite worship centre where one can hug enormous black guys with no questions asked - provided you sing the hymns? Or will it end up as part of the Antic or Lexadon property empires?
The only time I went to Ruarch Brixton Hill (on invitation from a work colleague) I found it powerful and fairly enjoyable - but I could never really surrender my intellectual faculties to the "Bishop" [even though he had thoughtfully sent us a video message from his travels in Dallas].
That said I think Ruarch's innocent all-accepting philosophy where we are all sinners - but have to help each other make life better is much more palatable than some catholic guilt I experienced in my teenage years.

 

[han]

Sounds like parts of the Church of England.

Belief in God is not a prerequisite for C of E membership these days. Even vicars.

But if you want all the good bits of church attendance (community, reflection) without the 'God' bit, Quakers or Unitarians are for you. Both of whom are reprazented (yo!) in Brixton.

 

[ibilly99]

Thanks for posting that. It truly represents the Ruarch ethos - everything to everybody. Meditation space, photovoltaic cells, an Academy school, 5-a-side hockey pitches, wind turbines. What doesn't it have?
Seems to be in the Croydon part of Norbury though - which leaves the question of what will happen to Ruarch Brixton Hill? Will it be a sort of satellite worship centre where one can hug enormous black guys with no questions asked - provided you sing the hymns? Or will it end up as part of the Antic or Lexadon property empires?
The only time I went to Ruarch Brixton Hill (on invitation from a work colleague) I found it powerful and fairly enjoyable - but I could never really surrender my intellectual faculties to the "Bishop" [even though he had thoughtfully sent us a video message from his travels in Dallas].
That said I think Ruarch's innocent all-accepting philosophy where we are all sinners - but have to help each other make life better is much more palatable than some catholic guilt I experienced in my teenage years.

A great show if you take the religion out of it - almost tempted to stick my head round for the experience.

 

[CH1]

A great show if you take the religion out of it - almost tempted to stick my head round for the experience.

A good little mover one might say.