Brixton Central Square - Thread the Seventh

[lang rabbie]

But the troopship HMT Empire Windrush was presumably named for the River Windrush

- given that other troopships included HMT Empire Clyde, HMT Empire Deben, HMT Empire Fowey, HMT Empire Halladale, HMT Empire Orwell, HMT Empire Test, HMT Empire Ken - most of which appear to be rivers noted for their angling.

 

[teuchter]

So what was the River Windrush named after?

(While you're at it, what was Rush Common named after? Anything to do with rushes or something completely different?)

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/corporate/Transforming-Brixton-Town-Centre-Phase-Three.pdf

Ah, the tall structures look like windrushes, not the lights themselves?

 

[Crispy]

Can't find a definitive source for rush common, but all signs point to yes, just rushes.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I wonder if those tall things in the corner are the Windrush Lights

 

[Crispy]

that's an ancient image, nothing to do with the current scheme

 

[lang rabbie]

Windrush (River).

779 Wenrisc (Gloucs.). C.D. i. 165, ch. 137.
1044 Waenric. Ibid. iv. 92, ch. 775, c.
1274-9 Weneriche, Wenresche, Wenris, Wenrisse. Rot.

Hund. ii. 699, 737, 856, 867.
1298 Wenerych. Eynsh. Ch. ii. 98.
1448-50 Wynrych. Oxf. City Docs. 323-4.

This is probably of Celtic origin, like so many river-names.
The forms above point to the influence of O.E. risce,
' a rush plant/ s, ss is a common Norm. Fr. transcription

From a badly scanned copy on Archive.org
of THE PLACE-NAMES OF OXFORDSHIRE - THEIR ORIGIN AND DEVELOPMENT BY HENRY ALEXANDER, M.A. (LIVERPOOL), OXFORD UNIVERSITY PRESS 1912

 

[teuchter]

Ah, the tall structures look like windrushes, not the lights themselves?

I am above such pedantry.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

that's an ancient image, nothing to do with the current scheme

yeah, I figured that from a write-up I saw of their plans from 2004.

Their website's shite. You'd think they'd update it

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I hope our fountain is a bit more impressive than this

 

[Crispy]

Their website's shite. You'd think they'd update it

jeez, you haven't seen my company's website. it's right out of 1998. the text is white arial. the background is this hard primary blue. designed for a 800x600 screen and internet explorer 4.0

 

[Planty]

Ah, the tall structures look like windrushes, not the lights themselves?

Aha! The (ex?) structure look like the non-existent plant, whereas the lights don't. Hmm...

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

But the troopship HMT Empire Windrush was presumably named for the River Windrush

- given that other troopships included HMT Empire Clyde, HMT Empire Deben, HMT Empire Fowey, HMT Empire Halladale, HMT Empire Orwell, HMT Empire Test, HMT Empire Ken - most of which appear to be rivers noted for their angling.

Why's there no HMT Empire Effra eh?

 

[lang rabbie]

Why's there no HMT Empire Effra eh?

Probably because when they were naming the troopships no fish had spawned in the Effra for 150 years and it was only known as a sewer.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

jeez, you haven't seen my company's website. it's right out of 1998. the text is white arial. the background is this hard primary blue. designed for a 800x600 screen and internet explorer 4.0

Are you sure it's not the BSOD?

Why are architects so unable to design a decent website then?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Probably because when they were naming the troopships no fish had spawned in the Effra for 150 years and it was only known as a sewer.

They could have had an HMS Empire Rewes as it sounds better than sewer

 

[story]

Windrush Square looks like a fucking bombsite.

And we've got this for another two years, yes?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Windrush Square looks like a fucking bombsite.

And we've got this for another two years, yes?

Near end of 2010 I think

 

[lang rabbie]

Brixton Hillites - prepare for eight weeks of morning northbound bus chaos

The three stops outside the Town Hall are going to be closed. All the town hall staff/people heading for locations off Acre Lane, as well as folk who normally get off the bus a stop early to avoid the chaos outside Morleys will be forced to sweat it out on a crowded bus through however many frustating light changes it takes to get to the stops at Brixton Tube.

I'd allow an extra five minutes for your journey and get off at Olive Morris House!

Some bus stops in Brixton will be closed from Monday 22 June for approximately eight weeks, as part of stage three of works by Transport for London (TfL) to upgrade Brixton Town Centre.

If your bus stop is affected, please use the bus stop before or after the closed stop.

Bus stops closed
The bus stops to be closed are W, X and Y on Brixton Hill, which will affect the following bus routes:

W – 2, 196, 250, 432, 689, 690, N2
X – 3, 59, 109, 118, 159, 415, N3, N159
Y – 45, 133, 333
Bus stops in use
From Monday 22 June please go to the next stop/s for these buses routes:

Routes 3, 59, 109, 159, N3 will stop at R
Routes 118, 133, 415, N159 will stop at S
Routes 2, 45, 196, 250, 333, 432, N2 will stop at T
View the location of Brixton bus stops
Exceptions
The exceptions are routes 689, 690 (school buses). These buses will stop prior to the Town Hall in Effra Road, near St Matthews Road (stop number BP4246) to prevent overcrowding of the town centre stop

 

[nick h.]

Why have they fenced off the area round the tree when there's no work going on? Fucking fuckwits. There's nowhere to sit any more. All we can do is watch money being squandered. Whoever's responsible for this fuck-up should be put in the stocks.

 

[tufty79]

at least they've not chopped the tree down - i was getting worried about it after the shredding of the trees in the grassy bit

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Why have they fenced off the area round the tree when there's no work going on? Fucking fuckwits. There's nowhere to sit any more. All we can do is watch money being squandered. Whoever's responsible for this fuck-up should be put in the stocks.

They've fenced off Henry Tate as well.

Maybe it's to avoid workmen accidentally knocking them down

 

[ajdown]

Why have they fenced off the area round the tree when there's no work going on? Fucking fuckwits. There's nowhere to sit any more. All we can do is watch money being squandered. Whoever's responsible for this fuck-up should be put in the stocks.

Unless you wanted to sit with the assembled alcoholics, there never really was anywhere to sit around that area.

Central Brixton is horribly devoid of anywhere nice to sit when you need it, unless one of those uncomfortable bus stop benches is your idea of acceptable.

I notice the bit between Morleys and Body Shop seems to be flat now, the seated bits that were there have gone. Does anyone know if they're going to put some benches in there?

I'd have thought that in the wide bit under the "going past" railway bridge rather than the station would have done well to get a couple of seats.

Which department of the council is it to write to that deals with this aspect? Seems like they have plenty of ideas to put in bicycle racks cluttering the place up but nothing for the pedestrians? Sometimes it's nice to just sit down for five minutes and rest your legs, especially on a hot day with that bit under the bridge being generally shaded.

 

[Bob]

Lots of work going on at the square at 8:30 this morning.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Lots of work going on at the square at 8:30 this morning.

Yes, I noticed they'd dug up all the grass. Obviously I didn't actually see them doing it. I think the fairies probably did it in the middle of the night.

 

[Greebo]

Saw some use of a digger outside the library around 2 today - and a different type of digger (small bulldozer?) was blocking part of the traffic but not doing much else on the Acre Lane side around noon.