Brixton businesses taking over pavement space (and Rush Common)

[CH1]

They're not on Rush Common proscribed land.

Should have consulted me own map your honour.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I meant the tower blocks on St Matthews estate like this:
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I was told by a resident that the construction method was similar to Ronan Point - so gas was banned in case it went like this:
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Both are "system build", i.e. modular builds from factory-fabricated panels, but that doesn't make them similar. System-built covers a vast number of different types of build.

 

[happyshopper]

It was the LCC and then the GLC that had powers under the Rush Common legislation - only went to Lambeth on the abolition of the latter.

 

[shygirl]

I understand that but it seems unreasonable to hold a grudge against San Marino for taking advantage of the fact that the building line was moved forward in the 1930s. If they didn't have that outdoor area then they'd probably struggle to survive although I agree with you that I don't like them permanence of it.

But when you're talking of space hogging, then there's the Ritzy's land grab on what is supposed to be public space at Windrush Square, although they have pegged back their ambitions of late.

I not trying to upset you in any way, but I do wonder at the inconsistency here. You were (rightly) really pissed at the amount of space used by Ritzy, yet you don't seem to be as bothered by San Marino doing similarly. Sauce, goose and ganger. I really object to how much space San Marino takes up in what is a very busy area. Even if they're not on Rush Common land, its surely still a public walkway?

 

[ricbake]

I not trying to upset you in any way, but I do wonder at the inconsistency here. You were (rightly) really pissed at the amount of space used by Ritzy, yet you don't seem to be as bothered by San Marino doing similarly. Sauce, goose and ganger. I really object to how much space San Marino takes up in what is a very busy area. Even if they're not on Rush Common land, its surely still a public walkway?

Use of the pavement outside a business requires a licence from the council for which there is a cost



Brixton Road and Brixton Station Road are Band A
Apply for a tables and chairs license | Lambeth Council

 

[editor]

I not trying to upset you in any way, but I do wonder at the inconsistency here. You were (rightly) really pissed at the amount of space used by Ritzy, yet you don't seem to be as bothered by San Marino doing similarly. Sauce, goose and ganger. I really object to how much space San Marino takes up in what is a very busy area. Even if they're not on Rush Common land, its surely still a public walkway?

It's because a near fortune of public money was spent on doing up Windrush Square as a community resource only for the Ritzy to grab a sizeable chunk of it for itself. And as you probably understand, I already have major issues with the Ritzy right now. San Marino annoyed me when they erected their barriers, but it's a lot more understandable given that they're the last non-megachain coffee shop on Brixton Road and they need to use every asset they can to survive.

 

[Rushy]

It was the LCC and then the GLC that had powers under the Rush Common legislation - only went to Lambeth on the abolition of the latter.

As mentioned above, only the injured party had any power under the Rush Common legislation. This was rarely the council. The power of the various council bodies' to enforce Rush Common legislation derives from the LCC General Powers Act of 1947.

Interestingly, the 1806 Act allows injured parties to take down offending structures themselves. I assume this is still the case?

 

[CH1]

Both are "system build", i.e. modular builds from factory-fabricated panels, but that doesn't make them similar. System-built covers a vast number of different types of build.

A long term resident (now living elsewhere) told me there were safety issues after Ronan Point. I am merely relaying this resident's account of their situation.

Wasn't there also an issue with Britanny Point? BBC NEWS | England | London | 'Hazard' tower belongings removed

 

[ViolentPanda]

A long term resident (now living elsewhere) told me there were safety issues after Ronan Point. I am merely relaying this resident's account of their situation.

Wasn't there also an issue with Britanny Point? BBC NEWS | England | London | 'Hazard' tower belongings removed

About half a dozen blocks were built on the exact same design as Ronan Point, and all were either cleared or remediated. Most high-rise system builds didn't carry gas mains though, thankfully.

 

[pachamama]

Edit: you can add Satay Bar to that list above.

Nope - they own that part under the arches - part of the building.

 

[CH1]

Nope - they own that part under the arches - part of the building.

Don't know about that - but clearly the brief of Greehill Jenner Architects who designed it like that for Metropolitan Housing Trust and Brixton Challenge was to restore the building line level with the Ritzy and the Coach and Horses.

Actually I doubt the Satay Bar own their restaurant even - unless there is a "Right to Buy" for restaurants. The whole development, including the Ritzy was financed by Brixton Challenge and Metropolitan Housing Trust.