chegrimandi
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editor said:
I didn't claim to be launching a campaign about its closure fool. You said I hasn't made much noise about it....
Brixton Art Gallery forced out of Business?
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I didn't claim to be launching a campaign about its closure fool. You said I hasn't made much noise about it....
chegrimandi said:
Well, seeing as you're goiing with the chupsty comments, let me be the first to call you Mr Ludicrous Misrepresentation...
I've just searched for the old thread and - hey presto - not one person suggested that a cracked window even came close to stopping them eating there. A couple of people pointed out the cracked window, but most were just united in suggesting that they thought it had gone downhill and hadn't been much of late.
That may not tally with your revisionist take on events, but I'd suggest you go back and read the old thread carefully again and stop waggling your fingers at others in such a moral fashion. I'm beginning to wonder what you really expected us to do after your few hours notification that Jacaranda was closing. Set off, pitchforks blazing, onto a feat of Brixtonwide gluttony that would boost Jacaranda's profits onto planet relaunch?
This whole forum is like a Bloody Great Row Down Memory Lane today. 
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they had very nice ratatouille in that baked potato place. 
chegrimandi
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tarannau said:Well, seeing as you're goiing with the chupsty comments, let me be the first to call you Mr Ludicrous Misrepresentation...
I've just searched for the old thread and - hey presto - not one person suggested that a cracked window even came close to stopping them eating there. A couple of people pointed out the cracked window, but most were just united in suggesting that they thought it had gone downhill and hadn't been much of late.
That may not tally with your revisionist take on events, but I'd suggest you go back and read the old thread carefully again and stop waggling your fingers at others in such a moral fashion. I'm beginning to wonder what you really expected us to do after your few hours notification that Jacaranda was closing. Set off, pitchforks blazing, onto a feat of Brixtonwide gluttony that would boost Jacaranda's profits onto planet relaunch?
no I'm simply mystified that people so in touch with the local community and so supportive of local businesses didn't know about the imminent closure of a much loved and oft frequented place like Jacaranda.
It seemed to me at the time of my original thread that people felt guilty about not going there and used the cracked window as an excuse to assuage their guilt. but hey thats just me....
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
might have been a local who gave the window a crack...
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Jacaranda used to be one of my favourite child-friendly places to eat. The window was just symptomatic of a sort of apathy that overtook the premises. The food was never quite as good, the staff became less cheery and eventually I just couldn't be arsed either.
editor
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One post saying "it's closing today" sure doesn't put you in a position to lecture others.chegrimandi said:
How long was the notice up for? Do you know?
And why should people here be expected to know about every single cafe closure in Brixton?
It had already been explained to you that even old-school regulars had stopped going for various reasons.
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Mrs Magpie said:
it must have been really really good it its prime then because the food was lovely, sizeable and staff friendly in the month or so I went there before its closure....
chegrimandi said:It seemed to me at the time of my original thread that people felt guilty about not going there and used the cracked window as an excuse to assuage their guilt. but hey thats just me....
that's a bit of a leap, cheg, to be fair..
i didn't eat there because the one time i did i didn't enjoy the food much. doesn't mean to say i'm glad to see a local business go down...
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editor said:Oh, in that case you must know better than everyone who'd been going there for years then.
jesus I make a comment about the fact that it must have been great in its hey day because it was nice when I went there and you jump on that even. Pathetic.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE THOUGHTS OF EVERYONE THAT WENT THERE FOR YEARS - ARE YOU THEIR SPOKESPERSON BY THE WAY? SIMPLY SAYING IT MUST HAVE BEEN REALLY Great IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS BECAUSE IT WAS STILL DELICIOUS AND FRIENDLY WHEN I WENT THERE!
do you understand that?
chegrimandi said:no I'm simply mystified that people so in touch with the local community and so supportive of local businesses didn't know about the imminent closure of a much loved and oft frequented place like Jacaranda.
It seemed to me at the time of my original thread that people felt guilty about not going there and used the cracked window as an excuse to assuage their guilt. but hey thats just me....
But it wasn't 'much loved' or 'oft frequented' was it (you're exhibiting your tendency to exaggerate and put words in the mouths of others again) That was the whole point: Jacaranda hadn't been much visited by many folks because they thought the place had slipped in recent years. My last meal there was simply unmemorable and undistinguished. I didn't go back because there was better cooking elsewhere and I've a limited stash of cash for dining out.
It's not, as far as I know at least, a essential function of a community to keep tracks on how every cafe and food business is going in the area - in fact I suspect that it's far more important for cafes to refresh themselves and keep their appeal to customers. Sadly Jacaranda didn't.
And let's leave the broken window bollocks eh - the lack of maintenance was perhaps symptomatic of the place's decline, but no-one's got close to suggesting that a bit of broken glass stopped them eating there...
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As this is the second going-nowhere-debate in this forum at the same time, any chance of us restarting at post #23?
chegrimandi
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editor said:So why should anyone feel "guilty"?
I'm not saying anyone should feel guilty. Not at all.
But if a place I used to go to regularly and had really liked at one stage closed down without my prior knowledge and I'd stopped going there for various reasons, I might feel a pang of guilt a bit of remorse that I'd not been more often of late....to add a bit of custom like....
I dunno. Thought thats how people worked.
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editor said:
shame you've trashed the thread.
(joke, joke!)
chegrimandi said:shame you've trashed the thread.
Bollocks cheg.If you hadn't started on your moral high horse, finger waggling and implying bollocks about 'broken windows,' 'guilt' ,(the duty of) 'communities to support 'much loved' cafes and other superior sounding grandstanding nonsense, I think it'd been a lot easier to ignore your words.
Here's a tip buckaroo: if you loved and valued the place so much, why didn't you give us more notice than 'it's closing today' and give us a proper chance to give Jacaranda another go. You rapidly attempting to claim the moral high ground in your haste to point the finger at others is a bit of an unedifying spectacle.
sufilala said:... is what it says on the notice on the shutters, which are closed,
there's a sign explaining that the rent has been doubled by the council, next to an eviction notice.
there's a petition as well
on the corner under the rec centre, this has been a great venue for 15 years, last thing i attended there was the excellent Brixtongue poetry night, a small but happening gathering of hiphop spoken word poetry, genuinely diverse and mixed event that really reflects the diversity, vibrancy etc. of our area, and it's getting shut down
that's another disaster, it's been a bad month for some of brixton's most special businesses, index, diverse and now the art gallery.... why is there no support for a business that is so valuable to brixton?? why are the council forcing them to close??
sign the petition, for what it's worth, maybe share your memories here of Brixton's longest running art space
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No online petition then?
Is the council a landlord? And is is definitely closing or is this more part of the negotiations over rent in the way that the Brixton Cycles thing seemed to be?
Sufilala - good to see you around again - I just came across an old post of yours on Swahili that maybe wasn't entirely honest.
Bob said:
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No online petition then?
Is the council a landlord? And is is definitely closing or is this more part of the negotiations over rent in the way that the Brixton Cycles thing seemed to be?
Sufilala - good to see you around again - I just came across an old post of yours on Swahili that maybe wasn't entirely honest.
Fair points. Do the petition have any likelihood of helping with rent negotiations in the current site?
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tarannau said:
finger waggling? I expressed an honest emotion: surprise - that brixton urbanites didn't know a well established and old caff/restaurant in Brixton was closing down. Right? Thats it. I knew and I only worked here for a month. Ok -with me so far? Its not grandstanding nonsense to expect people to know what goes on in their community ffs. Editor then said I'd not mentioned it at the time. I corrected him and explained I had. He then launched off on one.
Sorry, its not exaggerating to think people might experience a pang of regret and guilt when a local and once decent place goes down the plug. you know it isn't.
I didn't love and value the place so much. I only had contact with it for a month or so so I couldn't. But speaking to colleagues and comments on here over the last couple of years I got the impression it had been a valued part of Brixton. I brought the information to your attention as soon as I had it. Its not my duty to tell you what is going on on your own doorstep.
what's a buckaroo by the way?
BTW the new Indian place is called Lahore something... not been in there.
The Indian opposite 'Tandori Spice' has gone downhill in the last while. One of the main guys who used to run it bought a supermarket with his brother, the other guy doesn't really seem to be around much (in fact I've not seen him for ages) - and the new guys simply aren't as good at cooking.
The Indian opposite 'Tandori Spice' has gone downhill in the last while. One of the main guys who used to run it bought a supermarket with his brother, the other guy doesn't really seem to be around much (in fact I've not seen him for ages) - and the new guys simply aren't as good at cooking.
editor - sorry i was narked my thread got ignored except by tricky to spam his own project - that's the conexion..... is that ok?
the petition on the shutters of the gallery is still there, although the notice explaining about the closure seems to have gone, so i'm glad to have got it posted up here so the full force of the u75 social conscience can be brought to bear....
not much info on the gallery's website also unfortunately
compared to the jacaranda situation it seems that in this case very little notice was given - the poster stated explicitly that the gallery had requested the council to give them more time to seek funding to meeet the rent increase, which was refused
i loved the jacaranda, hefty portions, wish i'd ate there more, mmmm wish i could have a little of that fish and rice now actually
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the petition on the shutters of the gallery is still there, although the notice explaining about the closure seems to have gone, so i'm glad to have got it posted up here so the full force of the u75 social conscience can be brought to bear....
not much info on the gallery's website also unfortunately
compared to the jacaranda situation it seems that in this case very little notice was given - the poster stated explicitly that the gallery had requested the council to give them more time to seek funding to meeet the rent increase, which was refused
i loved the jacaranda, hefty portions, wish i'd ate there more, mmmm wish i could have a little of that fish and rice now actually
(tara - kiswahili ? unasema niongo???
)
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sufilala said:
No commercial landlord, not even Lambeth Council, can just impose a rent rise overnight, which suggests that the negotiations must have been dragging on for some time in the background.
Having said that, Lambeth's Estates Department must be bonkers if they are pressing for a "High Street" level of rent for that site.
