British frigate trains its guns on Iranian boats to protect tanker.

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by cupid_stunt, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut ... the Great.

    This is getting a bit dangerous, following the seizure of an Iranian oil tanker off Gibraltar last week, it appears the Iranians decided they would have a go at seizing one of ours.

    Iranian boats 'tried to intercept British tanker'
  2. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    If they can't get the Iranian oil out then this gets worse.
    Pickman's model likes this.
  3. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    BZ Montrose...
  4. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Alles hat ein Ende nur eine Wurst hat zwei

    The exact detail of what is considered international waters is going to be critical in how this plays out.
  5. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baŠĻČned: All

    You have to be quite far out to sea to be in International Waters. All of the Persian Gulf, all of the Red Sea, and the whole Mediterranean are territorial water. This incident happened well inside the Gulf.
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  6. TopCat

    TopCat Gone away, no forwarding address

    May I suggest we merge this thread with the Iran one?
  7. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    er tosh (at least as regards the mediterranean)

    p 35 of this

    e2a: this article 'Iran's martime jurisdiction in the region is complex' (yes, i know it's auld) suggests the issue of maritime boundaries in the gulf is very complex
    Bahnhof Strasse and kebabking like this.
  8. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    Complex and controversial are the keywords for this one - countries, in what they perceive as their own interests, define territorial waters differently. Russia, for example, defines huge areas of the Barents Sea, White Sea and all the rest as being in Russian Territorial waters because they sit between Russian land territory, the UK and US - and particularly their submarines - define Russian Territorial waters on the much stricter 12 mile limit principle.

    There's currently a bunfight between the Scottish government and the Irish government over the existence of a 12 mile limit around Rockwall - the Irish say it doesn't have one, so they can fish there, the SG says it does have one, so Irish boats can fuck off.
    A380, farmerbarleymow, a_chap and 2 others like this.
  9. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

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  10. likesfish

    likesfish an angry pretend soldier shooting at seagulls

    Royal Navy manage to do it without shooting an airliner down and the IRG also manage to avoid getting into a gunfight
    A380 likes this.
  11. Argonia

    Argonia Happy go licky

    It's been a bloody long time since there was a world war. I hope I don't live to see another one.
    likesfish and dessiato like this.
  12. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Rollin, rollin...

    World war is no longer the term used.
    Market realignment is the new description.
    A380, likesfish, TopCat and 10 others like this.
  13. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

    Iceland is involved too.
    A380 likes this.
  14. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    Is it?

    I know there's a disagreement between Iceland, Ireland, Denmark (on behalf of the Faeroes) and the UK over the EEZ and mineral rights on the sea bed, but I think the current dispute over Rockall having territorial waters is just between Ireland and Scotland, with the UK government giving it a stiff ignoring...
  15. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

    Ireland has had fishing rights around Rockall for years. The current issue is pre-empting Brexit. Irish rights may well change after Brexit but current arrangenents should have been honoured up to Brexit.
    Iceland has claims to Rockall too.

    Iceland reaffirms its claim to waters around Rockall
  16. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

  17. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    Nope, late capitalism doesn't mean that history has ended. Much as neoliberals desperately pretend so.
  18. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Rollin, rollin...

    Did someone pay you to say that? :D
    ferrelhadley likes this.
  19. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    Is that some poor attempt at a joke, or are you actually accusing me of being a shill?
  20. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Rollin, rollin...

    The former sorry if offended
    NoXion likes this.
  21. Tankus

    Tankus living someone else's dream.

    might be a free suit and a goodie bag with cds of the ayatollahs greatest hits in it ........maybe
    likesfish likes this.
  22. Artaxerxes

    Artaxerxes Well-Known Member

    We have a working frigate?

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