British - are better than everyone

[likesfish]

when we decide to be barstards we can be right barstards although we are a bit out of practice of late.
we usually managed to keep our imperial conquests by not being utterly savage
for example the beligum congo or the japanese behaviour in china.
even in retreat from empire it was mostly done in good order with a lot less bloodshed than say the dutch in indonesia the french in vietnam or algeria even the portugese in mozimbuique.
the irish and muslims maybe getting a hard time but that is due to a minority deciding to wage a bombing campign funny that

 

[slaar]

when we decide to be barstards we can be right barstards although we are a bit out of practice of late.
we usually managed to keep our imperial conquests by not being utterly savage
for example the beligum congo or the japanese behaviour in china.
even in retreat from empire it was mostly done in good order with a lot less bloodshed than say the dutch in indonesia the french in vietnam or algeria even the portugese in mozimbuique.
the irish and muslims maybe getting a hard time but that is due to a minority deciding to wage a bombing campign funny that

The Belgians in the Congo and Portuguese in Mozambique blew everything up before they left; now that's a shitty thing to do.

 

[diego]

the irish and muslims maybe getting a hard time but that is due to a minority deciding to wage a bombing campign funny that

If that is to be believed, and if it is why would they want to be waging that type of campaign in the first place, is it perhaps they wake up one day and decide that they hate the british people they have been living with for all these years and because they don't follow Islam they should be bombed? Or did something else piss them off?
I guess that people like you and Violent Panda would believe the former.

 

[diego]

Are you reading the same stuff as me? Nobody's justfying anything here you muppet.

Why don't you go pick a fight someplace else?

They may not be justifying it but it certainly seems to have hurt a nerve. Its not about picking a fight either its about making a factual statement.

On that note do you agree with it?

 

[diego]

It's the way in which you framed your contention.

You're the person who went for a sweeping generalisation rather than a well-defined premise, so why you're surprised that people are chewing at you for it is beyond me. Surely you aren't so obtuse that you can't see that you come across as being as prejudiced about "the british" as you are contending "the British" have been about other nationalities?

Its not my fault that you are being a deliberate wanker by trying to misquote me. Its pretty obvious that I do not mean every single Brit, but you would rather divert the focus of my statement onto something of no relevance to what I have said.

 

[Yossarian]

If that is to be believed, and if it is why would they want to be waging that type of campaign in the first place, is it perhaps they wake up one day and decide that they hate the british people they have been living with for all these years and because they don't follow Islam they should be bombed? Or did something else piss them off?
I guess that people like you and Violent Panda would believe the former.

Did David Copeland wake up one day and suddenly decide that he hated the black, Asian, and gay people he'd been living with in the same country all those years, or did something else piss him off? I don't think it makes him any less of a cunt either way, and I don't have any more respect for the London bombers than I do for him.

 

[Firky]

We won't be picking on the Chinese that's for sure.

In 50 years time they'll be coming over here pointing their 3D holocams at the locals as we push our pathetic belongings around in old prams. "Hey Johnny, you do hokey-cokey, I pay 5 euro."

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

If you want to read real racist twaddle you should read Renegade Dog's postings. Some chinese really upset him.

Idiot.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Actually I think RD or is it Slar hates every non-white. Lets try to get our heads round this for a minute.

Stop being a fucking prat.

 

[Spion]

we usually managed to keep our imperial conquests by not being utterly savage
for example the beligum congo or the japanese behaviour in china.
even in retreat from empire it was mostly done in good order

Yes, what a lovely image. I can almost see old maids cycling to evensong.

It would be an interesting exercise to tot up all the major battles, suppression of rebellions, famines etc and see how high the pile of bodies is.

Just thinking off the top of my head we've got:
The virtual destruction of Australian aborigine society (90% of population lost)
The Bengal famine of 1943 (5 million dead)
Irish famine (1 mill)
The conquest of India, Afgahnistan, Burma etc
Indian Rebellion (numbers? in the 10s or 100s of thousands?)
Suppressing rebellions in Sudan, Egypt etc 19/20thC

Shall we count the death and destruction carrying on to this day by our drawing up of the Middle East's borders in 1919?

Any more suggestions

 

[ViolentPanda]

If that is to be believed, and if it is why would they want to be waging that type of campaign in the first place, is it perhaps they wake up one day and decide that they hate the british people they have been living with for all these years and because they don't follow Islam they should be bombed? Or did something else piss them off?
I guess that people like you and Violent Panda would believe the former.

You're good at making baseless assumptions, aren't you?

Here's a hint; just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean that attributing to them views they don't hold (even when qualified with "I guess...") is a good idea.

Try growing up a bit, little rabbit.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Its not my fault that you are being a deliberate wanker by trying to misquote me. Its pretty obvious that I do not mean every single Brit, but you would rather divert the focus of my statement onto something of no relevance to what I have said.

I'm not "trying to misquote you". I don't need to. Your own decision to choose your words poorly do that. Don't try to blame other people for your own ineptness, it's the mark of an inadequate.

As for your statement having "focus", it was, as I said, so sweepingly generalised, in that you couldn't be bothered to actually elucidate who you were specifically talking about, to have little or no focus at all.

Again, don't try to blame other people for your own ineptness.

 

[nino_savatte]

All empires are crap, but as crap empires go the British empire went down fighting Adolph Hitler when everyone else ran away, introduced trial by jury to a quarter of the globe plus separation of the law and government, gave English to the world as an international language rather then French and invented the international games of football and cricket, which neither the Americans understand or play. Shit empire possibly, but some decent spin-offs.

The Empire also gave the concept of the pub and the phrase "Fuck off" to the world.

The Empire also stole the resources of the lands it conquered and carted the booty back to Blighty.

 

[dylanredefined]

I'm sorry missed the vote when the british decided to rob the world .
Didnt get any share of the profits of the empire never owned a slave.So dont feel any reason to be guilty about it .
Strong countries exploit weak ones ,Nowadays we see this as wrong it was considered justifible back then .

 

[Spion]

No need to feel guilty and no-one has suggested it, but I think self awareness is a good thing.

Whether we have profited from empire is debateable. We live in probably the top 5% of the worlds richest people. I wonder how much that has to do with the spoils of empire and the companies that made fortunes from it?

 

[Cobbles]

In the 70's- 90's it was the Irish, now its the muslims, who next?

The British are always picking on minority groups in their country in order to try and guise their own acts of terrorism and other plundering and criminal activities across the world, and I just wanted to know your thoughts on who might be next, the Chinese perhaps?

Any group that is associated with blowing up things or wantonly murdering (or even mass-murdering) generally attracts a certain level of disapprobrium and will inevitably draw the attention of the forces of law and order.

I wouldn't call that "picking on" anyone, just addressing a credible threat.

 

[Spion]

Any group that is associated with blowing up things or wantonly murdering (or even mass-murdering) generally attracts a certain level of disapprobrium and will inevitably draw the attention of the forces of law and order.

I wouldn't call that "picking on" anyone, just addressing a credible threat.

Are you saying we should blame all Jews when israel blows up Palestinians? I can't agree with that. Same as I can't agree with that happening to all Muslims because of the actions of a few.

 

[Yossarian]

True - same as you can't really hold a people responsible for the actions of their ruling class and wealthy elite - when the British Empire was at its 'glorious' height in the 19th century, with vast amounts of resources being plundered and huge fortunes being made, poverty was much worse and far more widespread among people in Britain than it is today.

 

[durruti02]

Some people have good reason to generalise about the British. And to be fair we've got away with treating many many times more people and countries like shit than they have us.

what do you mean "we" .. half my rels in the 19thc were working down mines or scraping by in west walian fields .. another lot fleeing prussian anti semitism

 

[Spion]

I mean 'the British'

 

[audiotech]

Did David Copeland wake up one day and suddenly decide that he hated the black, Asian, and gay people he'd been living with in the same country all those years, or did something else piss him off? I don't think it makes him any less of a cunt either way, and I don't have any more respect for the London bombers than I do for him.

Errrm, I don't think David Copeland woke up one day and suddenly decide that he hated black, Asian, and gay people. I think you'll find that he'd been hating them for some considerable time.

 

[likesfish]

same with the islamic fuckwits they hate us probably hate there fellow muslims who don't follow there path even more hope they all die soon

 

[diego]

I'm not "trying to misquote you". I don't need to. Your own decision to choose your words poorly do that. Don't try to blame other people for your own ineptness, it's the mark of an inadequate.

As for your statement having "focus", it was, as I said, so sweepingly generalised, in that you couldn't be bothered to actually elucidate who you were specifically talking about, to have little or no focus at all.

Again, don't try to blame other people for your own ineptness.

Your use of the English language, however advanced it may be, does not unfortunately hide the irrational meaning it normally portrays as we have seen all too often on U75.
As for not knowing who I really meant in my initial reference, as I have already explaained, I think to any rational thinking person it would be quite obvious but not to you obviously.

 

[diego]

same with the islamic fuckwits they hate us probably hate there fellow muslims who don't follow there path even more hope they all die soon

Your statement actually reflects the very people you seem to be against.

 

[likesfish]

So hating hate filled muslim fuckwits is wrong is it?
there like letting agents entirely surplus to requirements would'nt go looking to give them a kicking but would'nt piss on them if they were on fire.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Your use of the English language, however advanced it may be, does not unfortunately hide the irrational meaning it normally portrays as we have seen all too often on U75.
As for not knowing who I really meant in my initial reference, as I have already explaained, I think to any rational thinking person it would be quite obvious but not to you obviously.

Whatever you say, little rabbit.