Britain 'under' an anarchist 'government'?

[DotCommunist]

Hmm. Well seeing as the anarchists other than the Stonehenge types essentially bear the same sanctimonious social justice junkie ideology as their trad-left/liberal comrades, even down to nationalisation and so on in some cases, the other thread likely does a fair job of answering RMP3's question. I mean, it's really just communists trying to avoid association with the intensely uncool other sundry leftists with their youth sections and embarrassing trade unionists and so on. If they ever develop proper politics it looks more like the left communism of the ICC anyway, minus the "Infantile Disorder's" peculiar brand of beta-male social ineptitude.

You forgot to align lefty ideologies with christian religion. You are slipping.

 

[In Bloom]

Anarchism and The Spanish Revolution - Discussion
Andy Durgan 2005
www.ResistanceMP3.org.uk
http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m200...ndy-durgan.mp3 speech
http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m200...ndy-durgan.mp3 discussion

I can't listen to those right now (and the links appear to be borked anyway), would you care to give a precis in your own words and explain how the links are relevant to my post?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Hmm. Well seeing as the anarchists other than the Stonehenge types essentially bear the same sanctimonious social justice junkie ideology as their trad-left/liberal comrades, even down to nationalisation and so on in some cases, the other thread likely does a fair job of answering RMP3's question. I mean, it's really just communists trying to avoid association with the intensely uncool other sundry leftists with their youth sections and embarrassing trade unionists and so on. If they ever develop proper politics it looks more like the left communism of the ICC anyway, minus the "Infantile Disorder's" peculiar brand of beta-male social ineptitude.

What about Mutualism of the sort put forward by Kevin Carson? It's a pretty big departure from the traditional anarcho-syndicalist/libcom anarchism, and isn't based on the sort of sociological theorising that middle class anarchists seem to do when talking of the 'working class' rising up and wot not.

 

[TremulousTetra]

I can't listen to those right now (and the links appear to be borked anyway), would you care to give a precis in your own words and explain how the links are relevant to my post?

I wonder why?????
Going to experiment to see what I'm doing wrong.


http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m2005/anarchism-and-the-spanish-revolution-andy-durgan.mp3
Well that one seems to work.
http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m20...spanish-revolution-discussion-andy-durgan.mp3
And that one seems to work.

I see the problem. I have just copied and pasted from the original post, and when I have done that it hasn't copied the link, it has just copied the text. Sorry.

However you could just come to that website www.ResistanceMP3.org.uk that link was working.

 

[Pickman's model]

What about Mutualism of the sort put forward by Kevin Carson? It's a pretty big departure from the traditional anarcho-syndicalist/libcom anarchism, and isn't based on the sort of sociological theorising that middle class anarchists seem to do when talking of the 'working class' rising up and wot not.

what sociological theorising d'you mean? examples!

 

[joemac]

I find this slightly odd not least because anarchists are against government. As an anarchist I think that people would organise into whichever anarchist variant they see fit, however I think that it would be a mix of anarcho communism/syndicalism and green anarchism

 

[In Bloom]

I find this slightly odd not least because anarchists are against government. As an anarchist I think that people would organise into whichever anarchist variant they see fit, however I think that it would be a mix of anarcho communism/syndicalism and green anarchism

What do you mean by "green anarchism" here? Bookchin style social ecology or Green Anarchy magazine style stupidity?

 

[In Bloom]

I wonder why?????
Going to experiment to see what I'm doing wrong.


http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m2005/anarchism-and-the-spanish-revolution-andy-durgan.mp3
Well that one seems to work.
http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m20...spanish-revolution-discussion-andy-durgan.mp3
And that one seems to work.

I see the problem. I have just copied and pasted from the original post, and when I have done that it hasn't copied the link, it has just copied the text. Sorry.

However you could just come to that website www.ResistanceMP3.org.uk that link was working.

Yes, but:

• Due to t-mobile's fuckwitted definition of "fair use", I can't currently download or stream anything, I can only browse and;
• You still haven't explained how those discussions on the Spanish Civil War are directly relevant to the post you were relpying to.

 

[The39thStep]

Presumably there will be a vegan food option in every menu?

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

Britain 'under' an anarchist 'government'? < this is obviously an attempt to mirror our recent thread on Trotskyism. So please forgive the obvious errors in the title.

Say that a transitional sitution was brought to being on the back of mass strikes, and a partial workers insurrection that was just enought to allow a much expanded existing anarchist force to form a communist automous zone.
There would actually be enough electoral and rank and file workers on the street support for the idea of a radical anarchist automous zone to actually be accpetable to a critical mass of people, but that wouldn't mean they were actually anarchists themselves, just willing to give it a chance.


What would actually happen?

Here is one 'answer', the Spanish revolution.

Just some of my notes on a very short over what is covered.

Spanish the strongest anarchist movement in the world.
The Spanish revolution in many ways more radical than the Russian revolution.
The fascists and communists played major roles in defeating the Spanish revolution.
At least three major areas share with SW 1, solidarity of workers, anarcho syndicalism. 2. The idea revolution from below 3. Internationalism.
At least four key areas of disagreement. 1 state, take control without taking power. 2. Creating liberated spaces of communism here by now. 3. Apoliticism, it is of no interest for workers to participate in political parties/institutions. 4. inedividualism the deed can inspire the masses to revolt.

Anarchism and The Spanish Revolution - Discussion
Andy Durgan 2005
www.ResistanceMP3.org.uk
http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m2005/anarchism-and-the-spanish-revolution-andy-durgan.mp3 speech
http://www.resistancemp3.org.uk/m20...spanish-revolution-discussion-andy-durgan.mp3 discussion

David Icke has more chance of becomming prime minister than britain under an anachist government.

 

[JimW]

A unicycle in every garage and a chickpea in every pot.

 

[Dillinger4]

Presumably there will be a vegan food option in every menu?

Restaurants will be abolished.

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

Restaurants will be abolished.

But at least drugs will all be legal.

 

[CUMBRIANDRAGON]

Good clip from a recent anachist political debate

 

[joemac]

What do you mean by "green anarchism" here? Bookchin style social ecology or Green Anarchy magazine style stupidity?

social ecology with a bit of deep ecology but nothing like the green anarchist magazine

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

what sociological theorising d'you mean? examples!

I suppose just the thread in in general. Maybe I was being a bit quick in generalising from the specific, but really, come one! All this waffling about communist autonomous zones and mass strikes just seems like people have been watching too many movies.

 

[In Bloom]

I suppose just the thread in in general. Maybe I was being a bit quick in generalising from the specific, but really, come one! All this waffling about communist autonomous zones and mass strikes just seems like people have been watching too many movies.

Which movies? Seriously, because I can't think of too many Hollywood blockbusters featuring communist autonomous zones or mass strikes.

 

[Pickman's model]

I suppose just the thread in in general. Maybe I was being a bit quick in generalising from the specific, but really, come one! All this waffling about communist autonomous zones and mass strikes just seems like people have been watching too many movies.

how's that sociological?

 

[Pickman's model]

Which movies? Seriously, because I can't think of too many Hollywood blockbusters featuring communist autonomous zones or mass strikes.

nor can i

 

[TremulousTetra]

I suppose just the thread in in general. Maybe I was being a bit quick in generalising from the specific, but really, come one! All this waffling about communist autonomous zones and mass strikes just seems like people have been watching too many movies.

it seems like fantasy? Some of these things would be nice, world peace, freedom, democracy, if they could happen, but it's not going to happen in the real world? Is that what you're saying?

 

[DotCommunist]

I suppose just the thread in in general. Maybe I was being a bit quick in generalising from the specific, but really, come one! All this waffling about communist autonomous zones and mass strikes just seems like people have been watching too many movies.

I've got footage of the october revolution on constant loop in my head