Brit flicks: the kite mark of shite
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maximilian ping
Grrrrr
HiASL is swearing lots, just like in Brit flicks
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
dead man's shoes ftw.
pisses all over this is england - which is good in itself - but dead man'sshoes is a bloody amazing film.
what are we classifying as british, btw?
brit financed?, produced? helmed?
electrogirl
dignity is overrated
Why the fuck doesn't he hire some PROPER ACTORS!?!?!
I KNOW!
I know it's all this, 'ooh we'll imrpov to make it realistic'
NO it just makes everyone look uncomfortable and mumbly and amdram.
That's because I hate Shane Meadows. He's FUCKING SHITE.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's how people are.
It's just embarrassing. I feel ashamed for everyone involved. My fucking cheeks are burning here.
No. They. Are. Not.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They are more often than they're tightly scripted insights and hmm..interesting views that make re-think my views.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
There are some great British flicks. More bad ones than good, but that's universal.
The first recent one to spring to mind is Hunger, which is very very impressive.
The first recent one to spring to mind is Hunger, which is very very impressive.
electrogirl
dignity is overrated
It doesn't work in this film. I've seen improvisation techniques used in other films, Mike Leigh films for instance, but this one was just cringey. Maybe it was the actors, I don't know.
You could jsut tell they were acting.
They're all wooden. None of the people I know are wooden. Well - not many.
I'd rather watch the most preposterous flights of fancy than half-baked stories ful of characters who just don't ring true.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
And that is the problem. For example Garage
Is down on britfilms.com. But It's an Irish Director, Irish Writer, Irish Producer, Irish Cast, Irish Location, in fact the Editor, Sound recordist, DoP, and Production Company are all Irish. In fact I think it's considered British because it's partially funded by some British Executives, which is pretty fucking cheeky.
Oh and Garage is fucking excellent.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think that the most preposterous flights of fancy just don't ring true. I also don't think it's an either/or option.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Today?
electrogirl
dignity is overrated
It's not an either/or, no.
But I still think the acting in This is England is really contrived and like I said, I was so aware of them acting the whole time I couldn't lose myself in the story.
Flights of fancy aren't meant to ring true - isn't that the point? No, it's not either/or, but I'll go anywhere but to Shame Meadows for my dose of vicarious reality.
Ha. 'Shame'. That was a typo - but I'll keep it.
No, I prefer his earlier work, I have to say.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
How does that mean that they can't be expressed by characters that don't ring true? That's the point.
Come again?
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
From that list, there seems to be an acceptable amount of decent films:
Son Of Rambow, Man On Wire, In The Shadow Of The Moon, In Bruges, Mark Of Cain, It's A Free World, Scott Walker: 30th Century Man, Poppy Shakespeare, Joy Division, Joe Strummer: The Future Is Unwritten, Garage, Ghosts, Hallam Foe, Of Time & The City, Boy A, The Dark Knight and Control. That's not bad is it?
Son Of Rambow, Man On Wire, In The Shadow Of The Moon, In Bruges, Mark Of Cain, It's A Free World, Scott Walker: 30th Century Man, Poppy Shakespeare, Joy Division, Joe Strummer: The Future Is Unwritten, Garage, Ghosts, Hallam Foe, Of Time & The City, Boy A, The Dark Knight and Control. That's not bad is it?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Is it acting or are other styles of acting just more what people are used to, and most films following the signs for this is how you show normal. On the script this is especially telling.
electrogirl
dignity is overrated
Nah I don't think it's got anything to do with what I'm used to.
I don't mind people using the improvisation technique if it's done well, I just don't think it was here. I think you have to have exceedingly good actors to make it work, it jsut seemed really forced and unnatural and try-hard.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Come again?
The most preposterous flights of fancy can be expressed by characters that don't ring true, the same as the wooden dialouge expressed by crap characters you rejected eariler. It's the crap charecters that are the larger problem.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fair dos. I didn't actually like the film myself, but i thought the acting was one of the things that saved it, made it more than the usual one persons visions they needed to express bollocks.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Unmittaged shite.
Made in America with American money by a Brit who lives in Copenhagen.
Irish Director/Writer/Cast
Completely Irish.
Okay British Director, and visual effects, but American money and cast.
I'll give you the rest though
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Fair enough - I was just going by the list.
I liked Son Of Rambow, mittaged or not
But that's still a good haul for such a small cash-strapped industry.
Interesting that a fair few of them are documentaries.
I liked Son Of Rambow, mittaged or not
But that's still a good haul for such a small cash-strapped industry.
Interesting that a fair few of them are documentaries.
Well yes, it all comes down to the standard of the cast. With This is England, the script is half-decent - cliched as fuck, but half-decent - but you can barely see it for flying splinters every time one of the mannequins opens their gobs. One-dimensional, paper-thin characterisations that just don't pertain to reality.
With Dead Man's Shoes, the storyline was as preposterous as the acting. But still, Bruce Willis would have made it work. So that was his mistake there - not hiring Bruce Willis.
