Bristol Post apologises for 'Faces of Evil' front page 21 years ago

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  1. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    You don't seem to know what aggressive means.
     
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  2. Idaho

    Idaho blah blah blah

    aggressive
    əˈɡrɛsɪv/
    adjective
    1. ready or likely to attack or confront; characterized by or resulting from aggression.
     
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  3. Idaho

    Idaho blah blah blah

    I'm familiar with this perspective. But it's not entirely uncontroversial. And it's not so much a definition of the word "racism" but an analysis of racism in our culture.

    Perhaps more telling is that it's not entirely in agreement with your previous statement. This is saying that you can't be racist against white people, while your original statement said that black people can't be racist.

    The two statements are very different, and contraversial for different reasons. Anyhow... Thread derail.... newspapers ..
     
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  4. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    bint?? bint?? wtaf, you must know that's not going to fly here you prick

    e2a - do you even fucking know how wiki works idiot?
     
  5. Celyn

    Celyn Well-Known Member

    Oh, I reckon the "random bint" bit was just there deliberately for reaction.
     
  6. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat for the workers' breakfast

    hmm.jpg
     
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  7. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Amazing...you don't seem to realise that Wikipedia is compiled by randoms on the net, bints and otherwise. Pathetic.
     
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  8. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    So you agree you don't know for yourself and need to consult a dictionary.
     
  9. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    The people who liked your post is very telling.
    But how about
     
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  10. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Is the idea just that black people cannot be racist towards white people?
    Or that no race could be racist toward white people?

    And could black people be racist towards any non-white race?

    Is there an agreed standard of a relative social or political power differential that is necessary for racism to exist?
     
  11. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    If there are no characteristics common to a particular group, then they cannot be considered members of that group.
    That's just part of the definition of "group".

    It is the characteristics that are contested.

    edit: and how they are attributed
     
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  12. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    fill ya boots https://www.dailydot.com/via/reverse-racism-doesnt-exist/
     
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  13. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

  14. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    pardon?
    google some more for yourself then, til you find a satisfactory (for you) answer
     
  15. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    I hate racism. Don't care who the perps are. There's no justification for it.
     
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  16. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)



    Except anyone can edit it and most entries are till they reach some sort of state where the majority agree so theres that also every dictionary definition is the same.
    You definition is used by people who usually want to excuse horrible behaviour by people of colour who would be screaming the roof down if white people did it.
     
  17. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    You what? My definition? What the hell are you babbling on about now?
     
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  18. Mation

    Mation real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold

    Excellent International Women's Day post :thumbs:

    My previous statement? I guess it must be difficult for you to tell us apart.

    Black people can't be racist. We have no systemic power of oppression over any other race. White people are a subset of the people over whom we do not have this power. I hope this isn't difficult for you to follow.

    Can you see any sort of potential conflict between racism as defined by the people with oppressive power and by those oppressed? What sort of consensus do you think might be reached?
     
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  19. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry but this is nonsense. Of course black people can be racist.
     
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  20. Mation

    Mation real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold

    Oh! Ok, that's settled then!

    But just so I'm clear, which race/s do black people oppress?
     
  21. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    I've witnessed racism from white/black/Asian people. I don't know who's oppressing who but the idea that only white people can be racist is nonsense.
     
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  22. HoratioCuthbert

    HoratioCuthbert I had estates!

    I think the tweet is a bit reductive. First of all there are many examples of racism toward people that are white - Roma, Irish etc. Secondly in forward thinking London I came across black people being racist towards Muslims - I think we can call that racist, right ? Plus this stuff all seems centred on first world demographics particularly. God it's no wonder people have a hard time understand people in the middle East have oppressors that are closer to home.
     
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  23. Mation

    Mation real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold

    Who said that only white people can be racist?
     
  24. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    Ok, can you clarify then - everyone can be racist, apart from black people?
     
  25. HoratioCuthbert

    HoratioCuthbert I had estates!

    Clearly this didn't have anything to do with Transport London having progressive ideas on race.
     
  26. Mation

    Mation real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold

    I don't doubt you if you say you've seen black people displaying prejudice towards Muslims on grounds of them being Muslim. It's not racism though.

    Roma aren't white. Irish people only recently considered so (but there will be people better qualified than me to talk about that).
     
  27. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    I've heard black people be racist about other black people (African/Afro-Carribean both ways), about Asian people and experienced it myself (white in a mixed-race relationship).

    Just to be clear (and to state the bleeding obvious), black people are no better and no worse than anyone else.

    Eta I know I'm going to get picked up on whether African/Afro-Carribean prejudice is racism -- maybe that's not the right term? -- but I've certainly heard a lot of prejudice and stereotyping expressed.
     
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  28. Mation

    Mation real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold

    Racism is based on a system of oppression, so any race with a system of oppressive power over another can be racist.
     
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  29. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    Like when Idi Amin expelled the Asians from Uganda, for example.
     
  30. Mation

    Mation real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold

    So you don't think there is any system that results, e.g. in black people being arrested disproportionately or given harsher sentences than white people for the same offence? Or that affects earnings, educational opportunity, housing etc? Or do you think there are any systems in which white people as a group are systematically at a disadvantage?

    Obviously any individual person can be nasty to/discriminate against any other person on grounds of race, according to their own personal prejudice.
     
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