Bristol Peace Vigil

[Callie]

Its alright - we all know its what hes thinking

 

[munkeeunit]

oops - I think it may well have been Tobyjug - sorry Zaskar - rather destroyed my rhetoric there

No, I think it was defintely Zaskar, a protracted multi-threaded rant about how everyone on urban was a brainless druggie zombie, or something along those lines. Don't want TobyJug taking the stick, unless he did something similar.

As you say, my above rant is more of an 'opiate of the masses' type of outburst, and although similar, I don't wish to belittle or demean people on here in anyway. I will take issue with overuse of drugs though, but you all know that.

I'm not your betters. I've got demons too.

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PS: I just got a really nice PM from Callie, which cheered me up no end.

Thanks again Callie.

 

[3_D]

The response that people's passions are dull is dull.

I'm sick of people knocking activists, and people not being active, because they've got another pint which must be attended too, etc.

I think this may be partly aimed at my earlier post? If so you're right, it is shit that my passions are dull. And I'm sorry because I feel as strongly about war and warmongers as I did 20 years ago when I was in CND, but I aint got the energy to fight that fight 24/7 any more.

You may (but almost certainly are not) be interested to learn that this evening I was down at Bristol City FC shouting and screaming and getting passionate, as I've done for most of my life. An establishment that has in the past been a recruitment target for the SWP, particularly during the poll tax era.

I'm quite prepared to put some of that energy into the next Stop The War demo in Bristol as I have in the past, but don't push it huh? There's other stuff going on that demands our attention sometimes.

 

[munkeeunit]

I think this may be partly aimed at my earlier post? If so you're right, it is shit that my passions are dull. And I'm sorry because I feel as strongly about war and warmongers as I did 20 years ago when I was in CND, but I aint got the energy to fight that fight 24/7 any more.

You may (but almost certainly are not) be interested to learn that this evening I was down at Bristol City FC shouting and screaming and getting passionate, as I've done for most of my life. An establishment that has in the past been a recruitment target for the SWP, particularly during the poll tax era.

I'm quite prepared to put some of that energy into the next Stop The War demo in Bristol as I have in the past, but don't push it huh? There's other stuff going on that demands our attention sometimes.

It's not just Stop The War. I've only built up the Bristol STW newsletter into what it is because it's a vehicle now for publicising ever other loosely related campaign. It's about a lot more than just Stop The War.

I'm glad I've got a few people thinking, and passions aroused, which is a good thing, because I'm now backing out of politics for awhile. I have really been backing out of politics for the last few months.

I've been trying to stage a retreat without the things I put together simply falling apart in my absence (mainly the newsletters I do, not so much on the ground activism). Hopefully this has been achieved.

See you all when my batteries are hopefully recharged and my sun next comes up.

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PS: My adios for now is at the bottom of this thread, so I won't be replying to any other comments. Not out of rudenesss, but just because it's time I took a break. It's been fun. When I return I will be calm and more deadly with it.
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=142677

 

[WasGeri]

I was down at Bristol City FC shouting and screaming and getting passionate, as I've done for most of my life. An establishment that has in the past been a recruitment target for the SWP, particularly during the poll tax era.

Priceless!

 

[wiskey]

actually as an aside the very first demo i went on with urban people we met at embankment and walked to hyde park. at trafalgar square we lost the vast majority of our little group to the pub.

highly unamusing i thought.

 

[J77]

I actively boycotted Cafe Gusto when the price of their baggettes went up a couple of years ago...

 

[Zaskar]

Munkee, you talk of comfort zones, I suggest to you that the activism that you undertake and that you appear to value highly and appear to feel gives you value may be your comfort zone...

In my expiirience most activists do very little that is active beyond talk, argue, write ridiculous holier than thou babble that is patronising gobbledegook to most people, make silly banners, play knock a door, poke thier tongues out at the boys and wet their pants if anything real actually happens. The honourable exceptions to this are many and are usually the ones that just quietly do thier thing untill they are thrust on the stage by their singular actions. They are devoid of mission statements and posturing and self important auto fellation, they just do it.... then all the rest rush about to bask in thier glory.

Activism for the most part is a hobby for those unable to join the real world and remain stuck in thier student days with thier student haircuts and wolfie smith clothes and mantras. The activist is the thinknig persons pet. We malign them yet we feel affection for them, they are hopeless yet full of hope and that makes us feel good.

Activists are like members of the womens institute, well meaning but ultimately pointless irrelevant, slightly daft but somehow comforting in our capitalist dog eat dog world. They both like making cakes too....

 

[cyberfairy]

Munkee, you talk of comfort zones, I suggest to you that the activism that you undertake and that you appear to value highly and appear to feel gives you value may be your comfort zone...

In my expiirience most activists do very little that is active beyond talk, argue, write ridiculous holier than thou babble that is patronising gobbledegook to most people, make silly banners, play knock a door, poke thier tongues out at the boys and wet their pants if anything real actually happens. The honourable exceptions to this are many and are usually the ones that just quietly do thier thing untill they are thrust on the stage by their singular actions. They are devoid of mission statements and posturing and self important auto fellation, they just do it.... then all the rest rush about to bask in thier glory.

Activism for the most part is a hobby for those unable to join the real world and remain stuck in thier student days with thier student haircuts and wolfie smith clothes and mantras. The activist is the thinknig persons pet. We malign them yet we feel affection for them, they are hopeless yet full of hope and that makes us feel good.

Activists are like members of the womens institute, well meaning but ultimately pointless irrelevant, slightly daft but somehow comforting in our capitalist dog eat dog world. They both like making cakes too....

sounds like home made films...

 

[Zaskar]

Precisely !

I mock myself in all i do, well nealry all.

 

[J77]

Activists are like members of the womens institute, well meaning but ultimately pointless irrelevant, slightly daft but somehow comforting in our capitalist dog eat dog world. They both like making cakes too....

You need to step out of your bubble, Spielberg

 

[Callie]

Munkee, you talk of comfort zones, I suggest to you that the activism that you undertake and that you appear to value highly and appear to feel gives you value may be your comfort zone...

In my expiirience most activists do very little that is active beyond talk, argue, write ridiculous holier than thou babble that is patronising gobbledegook to most people, make silly banners, play knock a door, poke thier tongues out at the boys and wet their pants if anything real actually happens. The honourable exceptions to this are many and are usually the ones that just quietly do thier thing untill they are thrust on the stage by their singular actions. They are devoid of mission statements and posturing and self important auto fellation, they just do it.... then all the rest rush about to bask in thier glory.

Activism for the most part is a hobby for those unable to join the real world and remain stuck in thier student days with thier student haircuts and wolfie smith clothes and mantras. The activist is the thinknig persons pet. We malign them yet we feel affection for them, they are hopeless yet full of hope and that makes us feel good.

Activists are like members of the womens institute, well meaning but ultimately pointless irrelevant, slightly daft but somehow comforting in our capitalist dog eat dog world. They both like making cakes too....

erm whats all this talk of 'we'. I really don't think you can speak for the whole of the planet - so Ill assume that you started all that in your head with 'It is my opinion that...'

 

[bristol_citizen]

Activists are like members of the womens institute, well meaning but ultimately pointless irrelevant, slightly daft but somehow comforting in our capitalist dog eat dog world. They both like making cakes too....

Misconceptions about the Women's Institute can be corrected here.
Some of their "pointless, irrelevant, slightly daft" campaigns here .