Brighton Terrace Drug Treatment centre
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Is this the same thing:Blagsta said:
"South London and Maudsley NHS Trust (SLaM) working with Lambeth Drug and Alcohol Action Team (DAAT) and Lambeth Primary Care Trust (PCT) has identified the need to relocate key drug and alcohol treatment services SLaM provides for Lambeth residents so that they are available from a centrally located site within the Borough. Currently, these services are split between two sites, one in Stockwell, South Lambeth and the other in Southwark. As this is a Lambeth service for Lambeth people, we are proposing that these services should be based at a single site at 12-14 Brighton Terrace, near Brixton town centre."
http://www.slam.nhs.uk/files/Community briefing.doc
(nb downloadable word document)
In which case it will *replace* the Stockwell Project and another one.
Edit: The above link is a 10 page document that addresses many of the issue and questions raised so far on this thread, and as such is really worth reading if you are at all interested in this.
innit
c'mon, little life giver
Blagsta and TeeJay both make excellent points.
I used to work at a residential treatment centre in a residential area of a part of London with very highly visible drug use. I won't give any specific details because our neighbours did not even know what we did and I don't want to spoil that for the current and future clients of the project. Our clients did not increase the crime in the area or cause any difficulties to the neighbours at all. Some clients and social workers expressed concern that the centre was so close to active drug use, however it did not make any difference (in terms of outcomes) to the effectiveness of the program. Ex-drug users are going to have to come in contact with drug use at some point, IMO it might as well happen relatively early on in their treatment while they still have a high level of support around them.
Haven't seen any objections to the treatment centre which hold up, in my experience / opinion.
I used to work at a residential treatment centre in a residential area of a part of London with very highly visible drug use. I won't give any specific details because our neighbours did not even know what we did and I don't want to spoil that for the current and future clients of the project. Our clients did not increase the crime in the area or cause any difficulties to the neighbours at all. Some clients and social workers expressed concern that the centre was so close to active drug use, however it did not make any difference (in terms of outcomes) to the effectiveness of the program. Ex-drug users are going to have to come in contact with drug use at some point, IMO it might as well happen relatively early on in their treatment while they still have a high level of support around them.
Haven't seen any objections to the treatment centre which hold up, in my experience / opinion.
Ive had the following replies from elected representatives so far:
Kate Hoey (MP Vauxhall) - "Not convinced that brighton Terrace is the approprioate location" she thinks it should be at 141 Acre Lane and that the BRighton Terrace location would be "detrimental to the local residential community"
Sharon Malley (Councillor Coldhabour) - "in favour of treatment centres " but has "concerns about the proposed
location of the treatment centre in Brighton Terrace."
Darren Johnson (Green Party GLA) - "Will
make representations to Lambeth Council" in favour of the centre.
Kate Hoey (MP Vauxhall) - "Not convinced that brighton Terrace is the approprioate location" she thinks it should be at 141 Acre Lane and that the BRighton Terrace location would be "detrimental to the local residential community"
Sharon Malley (Councillor Coldhabour) - "in favour of treatment centres " but has "concerns about the proposed
location of the treatment centre in Brighton Terrace."
Darren Johnson (Green Party GLA) - "Will
make representations to Lambeth Council" in favour of the centre.
Get Councillors Blogging
Trying to find out where councillors stand on this issue has got me thinking how we find out what our councillors are upto more generally. Its not like parliament where votes etc are published so it can be hard to find out what they are doing/where they stand. (unless you have time to attend council meetings).
I checked on the http://www.bloggerheads.com/political_weblogs/ and none of our councillors runs a blog. Not that supprising as it looks like there is currently only one in the entre country (
)
I was thinking about starting a mini 'Get Councillors Blogging' campaign. Does anyone know any councillors who might be sympathetic?
Trying to find out where councillors stand on this issue has got me thinking how we find out what our councillors are upto more generally. Its not like parliament where votes etc are published so it can be hard to find out what they are doing/where they stand. (unless you have time to attend council meetings).
I checked on the http://www.bloggerheads.com/political_weblogs/ and none of our councillors runs a blog. Not that supprising as it looks like there is currently only one in the entre country (
)I was thinking about starting a mini 'Get Councillors Blogging' campaign. Does anyone know any councillors who might be sympathetic?
memespring said:Trying to find out where councillors stand on this issue has got me thinking how we find out what our councillors are upto more generally. Its not like parliament where votes etc are published so it can be hard to find out what they are doing/where they stand. (unless you have time to attend council meetings).
I checked on the http://www.bloggerheads.com/political_weblogs/ and none of our councillors runs a blog. Not that supprising as it looks like there is currently only one in the entre country (
I was thinking about starting a mini 'Get Councillors Blogging' campaign. Does anyone know any councillors who might be sympathetic?
Votes are published for committees... Not sure about the councillors. Generally councillors of all groups are fairly young in Lambeth so I'm sure you'd find somebody...
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
memespring said:
The only (known) blogging Lambeth councillor stood down at the last election, but she still publishes a blog - which spookily was still dealing with councillor things in Sunday 16ths's posting.
I think after the sometimes frankly confessional nature of her site, the rest were terrified that their blogs would look rather tame by comparison.
memespring said:
I'm sure it would be legal. I suspect getting them to all have blogs may leave you with some wait. Blogs are very much a long term thing, not an election thing, so my guess is you'll have better luck pushing post the May elections than trying now when a whole load of councillors are either standing down or worrying about getting re elected.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Why would you want councillors to keep blogs anyway?
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
I cannot breach his/her blogname alias, but it's pretty bloody easy to deduce.Bob said:
Orang Utan said:
I should have been more specific - I mean blogs about their work as our representatives. Plus the blogs need to allow comments to be left by us. Two main reasons for this:
1) So we know what is being done in our name - most of us pay little attantion to what our specific representatives do once elected because the buy-in (nasty term I know) is too high. You have to know them personally, attend meetings or read dull minutes etc.
2) To have a two way communication with those who we elect.
Its all put more elequently at the Political Weblog Project
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Where on Brighton Terrace are they planning on having the treatment centre located..?? The only two places I can think off is either Brighton House or the old "Bless" bakery.. Just out of interest...
Statement from Cllrs Prentice & McGlone on Brighton terrace
This is bollocks for a number of reasons. The Acre Lane site (one of the alternatives) is worse for transport - a major issue for crack/heroin users who are likely to not be the sort of organised people who go very far for treatment.
And to say that Acre Lane is not a residential area because there are shops is rubbish - there are flats above virtually all the shops and there are residential streets on both sides. Yet again I feel I need to point out that anywhere a drugs treatment centre is put in Brixton will be residential in some way.
This is bollocks for a number of reasons. The Acre Lane site (one of the alternatives) is worse for transport - a major issue for crack/heroin users who are likely to not be the sort of organised people who go very far for treatment.
And to say that Acre Lane is not a residential area because there are shops is rubbish - there are flats above virtually all the shops and there are residential streets on both sides. Yet again I feel I need to point out that anywhere a drugs treatment centre is put in Brixton will be residential in some way.
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
I got that statement too - I thought I was special 
You're absolutely right though about trabnsport and residential issues. I just don't buy into it that there are any non residential sites it could suitably be housed - turns out Lambeth is quite a densely populated place.
Good point on the constituency boundaries as well - I forgot that Acre Lane was the boundary line - I guess it being sited there would make it Keith Hill's problem instead.
You're absolutely right though about trabnsport and residential issues. I just don't buy into it that there are any non residential sites it could suitably be housed - turns out Lambeth is quite a densely populated place.
Good point on the constituency boundaries as well - I forgot that Acre Lane was the boundary line - I guess it being sited there would make it Keith Hill's problem instead.
nipsla said:
Anyone from his constituency want to write to him and find out his position on a centre at 141 Acre Lane?
and add it to here
memespring said:
What I find so annoying is that everyone keeps on saying Acre Lane should have been investigated more - not that it should happen. So if they successfully stop Brighton Terrace the whole thing will happen again with Acre Lane - and there will never be a drugs treatment facility.
The only politician so far to actually state an opinion on where the drugs treatment centre should be rather than could be is Brian Palmer. I'm buying him a drink when I next see him.
Bob said:
Its actually quite pathetic. Councillors are elected to make decisions on our behalf and to look after the interests of all their constituents (including those with drug problems). Pretty much everyone Ive had contact with has agreed in principal, but gets all vague when it comes to naming a site.
Where does Brian Palmer propose? (I know he was the only one to vote in favor of Brighton Terrace).
