Brian Paddick in Stockwell

[pk]

What rubbish, the deaths are terrible, but it demeans what other generations went through to call some terrorists cells a war, are you playing the State's game, PK?

perspective dear boy, perspective

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/


'We are effectively at war.'

Roughly 8,500 troops are presently in Iraq, 1,100 in Afghanistan.

No, it's not World War Two, but we are still at war.

Do you ever watch the news treelover?

 

[Pickman's model]

I can't help thinking we need as many cops on the ground as possible

 

[Sorry.]

Roughly 8,500 troops are presently in Iraq, 1,100 in Afghanistan.

No, it's not World War Two, but we are still at war.

Do you ever watch the news treelover?

Apparently the war in Iraq ended on May 1st 2003

 

[DaveCinzano]

Apparently the war in Iraq ended on May 1st 2003

who won?

 

[kropotkin]

who won?

Freedom and Democracy

 

[detective-boy]

Suspension on full pay whilst an act of potential gross misconduct is investigated is entirely HR (further, accepted) best practice - and required to avoid the challenge that you mention. And how much more potentially "gross misconduct" is this?

I'm sure you have more knowledge on the ins and outs (the police service is notoriously bad at most HR stuff!).

But describing my experience of application in the police context, your question is effectively where the difficulties have arisen - where the approach (and it has been more than simply the act of suspension but some of the investigative steps taken) has been tantamount to deciding gross misconduct from the outset. I'm not aware of it reaching the stage where suspension cannot be carried out but it is behind the care they take before making the decision.

 

[laptop]

in the police context ... more than simply the act of suspension but some of the investigative steps taken ... has been tantamount to deciding gross misconduct from the outset

Ah. That'll be down to Russell, Jones and Walker getting creative again, won't it? (Police Federation solicitors.)

 

[detective-boy]

Ah. That'll be down to Russell, Jones and Walker getting creative again, won't it? (Police Federation solicitors.)

Are you sure you're not a detective with investigative skills like that

 

[invisibleplanet]

who won?

Freedom and Democracy

That really is too much.

I certainly hadn't overheard the police one week after the 7/7 bombings inside the Bloomsbury CSI line, talking amongst each other about the breathing difficulties they had experienced as they continued picked bits of people's flesh from the tube tunnels and how stomach-wrenching the smell was.