"Brian Paddick: Britain's most controversial police chief"

[chegrimandi]

so let me get this straight - the intellectual might of urban is pro the police annd think they do a stirling job? Can you offer an opinion?

I feel no sympathy for a high ranking policeman thats going to retire on a huge pension....

is this highly problematic?

 

[TAE]

He still posts.

Cool.

I only found out about this forum because his activity on here was reported in the press.

 

[Balbi]

so let me get this straight - the intellectual might of urban is pro the police annd think they do a stirling job? Can you offer an opinion?

I feel no sympathy for a high ranking policeman thats going to retire on a huge pension....

is this highly problematic?

I believe he feels no sympathy for you either, if it makes you feel better

 

[chegrimandi]

does urban think the police victimise, repress and demonise working class youth?

 

[editor]

So editor - what is it you're asking me?

Can't you read?

So you'd prefer no police at all then, yes?
So how would that work then?

 

[editor]

does urban think the police victimise, repress and demonise working class youth?

Sorry - who are you addressing this to?

I didn't think we'd elected a spokesperson for the entire site.

 

[Balbi]

does urban think the police victimise, repress and demonise working class youth?

I think that Urban isn't a consensus or a dissensus. It's comprised of a variety of political viewpoints and cannot be said to be definitively 'thinking' any single thought.

It's one of it's finer points I find.

 

[editor]

I think that Urban isn't a consensus or a dissensus. It's comprised of a variety of political viewpoints and cannot be said to be definitively 'thinking' any single thought.

You mean we're not a mono thought clique?

I must be thinking of another site!

 

[fanta]

Can you offer an opinion?

A cheggy is a cheggy is a cheggy.

Or is that too metaphysical for you?

 

[chegrimandi]

Can't you read?

I was asking you to clarify your point quizmaster!

will there be an urban whipround for BP's slush fund?

 

[Balbi]

Oh cheg you little tease

 

[MatthewCuffe]

Can I interject with my question again?

The best Metropolitan Police Commissioner available - Sir Ian Blair or Brian Paddick (or somebody else)?

 

[chegrimandi]

You mean we're not a mono thought clique?

I must be thinking of another site!

any attempt to keep this one on track? I know you're a wee bit obssesed...

 

[editor]

I was asking you to clarify your point quizmaster!

I'm fail to see why you can't understand my question.

Seeing as you - in your "mature reasoned" way - posted up saying, "a piggy is a piggy is a piggy is a piggy", I asked if you'd prefer a society with no police.

It's really quite a simple question.

will there be an urban whipround for BP's slush fund?

That doesn't even make sense. What are you on about?

 

[knopf]

Can I interject with my question again?

The best Metropolitan Police Commissioner available - Sir Ian Blair or Brian Paddick (or somebody else)?

Keith Blakelock.

 

[MatthewCuffe]

'Available' assumes the absence of reincarnation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Blakelock

 

[knopf]

I asked if you'd prefer a society with no police.

It's really quite a simple question.

I know it wasn't addressed to little me, but anyway.....

A society with no police function is an impossibility, IMO. However, that's not the same as saying that you need a seperate police force.

 

[laptop]

'Available' assumes the absence of reincarnation.

So you're ruling out the Dalai Lama?

 

[Balbi]

Can I interject with my question again?

The best Metropolitan Police Commissioner available - Sir Ian Blair or Brian Paddick (or somebody else)?

John Reid - the government throw him in to every other fucked up department to sort it out.

Of course, the mandatory riot gear and tear gas issued to all officers might cause what the man himself might call 'a wee bit of a fucken stir' there.

 

[Sue]

I've no opinion on BP one way or the other. But..it does seem a bit 'high up copper posts on site, everyone gets a bit overexcited and from then on he can do no wrong' kind of hero worship type thing.

Just my opinion you understand.

 

[MatthewCuffe]

On reflection, I might plump for the Dalai Lama as opposed to John Reid.

 

[knopf]

it does seem a bit 'high up copper posts on site, everyone gets a bit overexcited and from then on he can do no wrong' kind of hero worship type thing.

 

[MatthewCuffe]

From my reading of the Paddick on U75 episode, there was just genuine delight that an individual in a mainstream institution seemed to be listening, open-minded, forward-thinking, and able to think laterally.

Such is not the work of a Messiah - just the kind of pragmatically inspired approach that is all too rare in the UK.

And his reward?

 

[editor]

I've no opinion on BP one way or the other. But..it does seem a bit 'high up copper posts on site, everyone gets a bit overexcited and from then on he can do no wrong' kind of hero worship type thing.

I'm sure he can do a lot of wrong, but it was refreshing having a cop in my area who I thought was actually listening to the community.

It was interesting having one take the time to argue the toss here too, IMO.

 

[Balbi]

I've no opinion on BP one way or the other. But..it does seem a bit 'high up copper posts on site, everyone gets a bit overexcited and from then on he can do no wrong' kind of hero worship type thing.

Paddick isn't a hero as such - it was just nice to see someone do something different. The best of a bad barrel so to speak. And it might have helped his cause a tad when the red tops started laying into him for posting here and even more so when they made their attacks based on his sexuality. Not on imo.

But it's been a while since he could actually do anything, so the process of attack defend over Paddick is a bit cathartic.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I feel like I've entered the twilight zone...

 

[Balbi]

On reflection, I might plump for the Dalai Lama as opposed to John Reid.

Oh come on; Reid in charge of the Met? Civil Unrest in a month, Barricades in three, Revolution in five.

Cheg would be pleased.

 

[Balbi]

I feel like I've entered the twilight zone...

Good int it. I'm looking to get my 9k.

 

[knopf]

 

[MatthewCuffe]

Perhaps it might appear to some as hero-worship simply because 'normality' is utter cynicism towards everyone in positions of responsibility.

We could live in a society where Mr.Paddick's attempt to listen to his community would be seen as normal, as opposed to weird or anarchistic (etc).

As for Mr.Reid, well we will see how the Home Office and public trust in it is doing after the hundred days.

I think you may be right that his machismo tactics will do nothing more than stimulate the revolution.