Brian 2: The Sunday papers witchhunt goes on
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I'm sorry to have to say that it must be worse after Camberwell Green to have that unenviable status. Before that it's generally safe in my personal experience.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Likely to be quality thoughts ...
not that imminent I'm afraid...loads of stuff to do, but like you William...in my head, I'm working on it
Gggrrr STILL waiting for my daughter and my son-in-law to come and pick me up to do them a favour in the nether reaches of West London.....broke my neck to be ready by 7pm in Brixton, only to discover much later that they hadn't left Kingston at 7.45pm GGGRRRR
not that imminent I'm afraid...loads of stuff to do, but like you William...in my head, I'm working on it
Gggrrr STILL waiting for my daughter and my son-in-law to come and pick me up to do them a favour in the nether reaches of West London.....broke my neck to be ready by 7pm in Brixton, only to discover much later that they hadn't left Kingston at 7.45pm GGGRRRR
Peter Matisse
Queering the Mail
I did not find the story you mentioned Pooka but from your description I totally agree with you.
I have ocasionally travelled on the 36 from Victoria to the Oval, and whilst encountering some fellow travellors who, lets say, march to the beat of a different drum, have not had any problems. But Hatboy's post suggests it sometimes starts further along the route.
One of the things that I have often thought about prison, is that not enough attention has been given to the way we treat people once they are locked up. Like we all have, I have been reading about drug policies in the newspapers, and one comment I came across was saying that if you imprison someone for drug dealing who does not have basic literary skills, but has been earning a great deal of money drug dealing, how will teaching them to read and write at a basic level, then releasing them into a community where they may only be able to get a low paid job, discourage them from taking up dealing again. The point that was being made was that not enough was being done about taking education beyond the basics in prison.
I have mentioned before that I do not see why it is not possible for people in prison to be able to earn reasonable wages - I am thinking here about some prisons in the USA where inmates man call centres - to contribute something towards the costs of their sentences. Not as slave labour, but at reasonable rates the same as any other worker.
I see today that that the government is saying that the 250,000 or so, said to be drug addicts committing crimes, are to be offered treatment as quickly as possible. I beleive within two weeks is the target. I also read one report that said that the treatment would be mandatory. What is not clear to me is what will happen to those that become re-addicted once they finish the treatment. Is it to be a 'three strikes and you are out' situation, or are we committing resources to treating some people repeatedly over long periods.
One thing I expect to happen is an outcry about lawbreakers being given treatment whilst the NHS waiting lists are still so long. I wonder which paper will start that one.
Although there seems to be a lot of confusion and bickering about some of the drug issuses at the moment - headless chickens spring to mind - what seems to be the main thrust, if it is more than just talk, hopefully will mean that some of the problems in Brixton may get more of the attention they deserve.
But the problem still remains of how we discourage people from taking drugs. Well I don't think you will, some people will always want to push things to excess, but hopefully if you can eliminate some of the other contributing factors, then less people will feel that drugs are the only response to their circumstances. I am far from convinced that showing warning videos to nine year olds is a sensible starting point though.
I have ocasionally travelled on the 36 from Victoria to the Oval, and whilst encountering some fellow travellors who, lets say, march to the beat of a different drum, have not had any problems. But Hatboy's post suggests it sometimes starts further along the route.
One of the things that I have often thought about prison, is that not enough attention has been given to the way we treat people once they are locked up. Like we all have, I have been reading about drug policies in the newspapers, and one comment I came across was saying that if you imprison someone for drug dealing who does not have basic literary skills, but has been earning a great deal of money drug dealing, how will teaching them to read and write at a basic level, then releasing them into a community where they may only be able to get a low paid job, discourage them from taking up dealing again. The point that was being made was that not enough was being done about taking education beyond the basics in prison.
I have mentioned before that I do not see why it is not possible for people in prison to be able to earn reasonable wages - I am thinking here about some prisons in the USA where inmates man call centres - to contribute something towards the costs of their sentences. Not as slave labour, but at reasonable rates the same as any other worker.
I see today that that the government is saying that the 250,000 or so, said to be drug addicts committing crimes, are to be offered treatment as quickly as possible. I beleive within two weeks is the target. I also read one report that said that the treatment would be mandatory. What is not clear to me is what will happen to those that become re-addicted once they finish the treatment. Is it to be a 'three strikes and you are out' situation, or are we committing resources to treating some people repeatedly over long periods.
One thing I expect to happen is an outcry about lawbreakers being given treatment whilst the NHS waiting lists are still so long. I wonder which paper will start that one.
Although there seems to be a lot of confusion and bickering about some of the drug issuses at the moment - headless chickens spring to mind - what seems to be the main thrust, if it is more than just talk, hopefully will mean that some of the problems in Brixton may get more of the attention they deserve.
But the problem still remains of how we discourage people from taking drugs. Well I don't think you will, some people will always want to push things to excess, but hopefully if you can eliminate some of the other contributing factors, then less people will feel that drugs are the only response to their circumstances. I am far from convinced that showing warning videos to nine year olds is a sensible starting point though.
Athos
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Me neither.
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Was that really worth bumping up a 12 year old thread just for that comment? Please don't do it again.
Athos
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I've got rights you know.
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hiraethified
Me too. Thread closed.
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