Brexit & Scotland

[Lepton]

Scotland is becoming a dictatorship, The poison dwarf has her hands on power and she Wont let go and allow the peoples voices to be heard

 

[Celyn]

Well, you know, there are elections, I think. Voting - that sort of thing.

What exactly is upsetting you?

 

[danny la rouge]

Scotland is becoming a dictatorship, The poison dwarf has her hands on power and she Wont let go and allow the peoples voices to be heard

I'm not an SNP supporter, to say the least, but this seems a bit unhinged. "Dictatorship"? In what way?

 

[redsquirrel]

Sass has got a new friend.

 

[weepiper]

Scotland is becoming a dictatorship, The poison dwarf has her hands on power and she Wont let go and allow the peoples voices to be heard

What a load of pish.

 

[Fedayn]

Scotland is becoming a dictatorship, The poison dwarf has her hands on power and she Wont let go and allow the peoples voices to be heard

I am not a fan of the SNP to put it mildly, and yes there are undoubtedly elements of anti-working class sneering and patronising over such things as '2 for 1 pizza' etc, their utterly woeful and reactionary Offensive Behaviour Act which has resulted in me (and many friends and others) having my name and address dragged in the press, threats to our jobs and personal safety, dragged through the courts, the formation of the utterly discredited and at both times incompetent and criminally dangerous Police Scotland but to refer to it becoming a dictatorship is hyperbole of the worst kind, utterly utterly silly.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Sass has got a new friend.

Even I don't think that Scotland under the 'Blood and soil' nationalists is a dictatorship. They will be gone next election, they are already a minority government being propped up by the Greens. I suspect the Greens will get a kick in the nuts next time as well.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Scots prefer decision making at Holyrood to Westminster. Quelle fucking surprise

news/politics/snp-poll-majority-of-scots-back-holyrood-for-indyref2-decision-1-4408656

Really? The SNP won the referendum? Blimey, I missed that.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Winning hearts and minds eh?

The girl was a sixth former, therefore an adult in law. Poor wee snowflake.

No, he shouldn't have said what he did, but fucking hell, if that is the resilience of our young people, God help us.

 

[weepiper]

Even I don't think that Scotland under the 'Blood and soil' nationalists is a dictatorship. They will be gone next election, they are already a minority government being propped up by the Greens. I suspect the Greens will get a kick in the nuts next time as well.

Computer says no.


Labour spurned as leaders fail to arrest slump

 

[danny la rouge]

the 'Blood and soil' nationalists

Like this?

BREATHES there the man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
'This is my own, my native land!'
Whose heart hath ne'er within him burn'd
As home his footsteps he hath turn'd 5
From wandering on a foreign strand?
If such there breathe, go, mark him well;
For him no Minstrel raptures swell;
High though his titles, proud his name,
Boundless his wealth as wish can claim; 10
Despite those titles, power, and pelf,
The wretch, concentred all in self,
Living, shall forfeit fair renown,
And, doubly dying, shall go down
To the vile dust from whence he sprung, 15
Unwept, unhonour'd, and unsung.

 

[Poi E]

That Holyrood graph is worrying. Labour and the Tories could easily go into coalition to keep out the SNP.

 

[ska invita]

How is Brexit going in the Scottish press? Id expect the SNP have a lot of hay to make, particularly regarding fishing. Is there a sense of "national crisis"?



(I contacted the family i know who fish off west coast in a small creel boat and land at Mallaig, but they havent gone out yet this year because of the weather - they often shut down till March supposedly)

 

[steeplejack]

People are preoccupied with "the virus". Brexit barely features.

There has been noise about fish and many people in the North East and on the West Coast face ruin. The SG has stepped up to the plate with emergency funding which is a sticking plaster but no substitute for the sorts of changes needed. But the powers for making those changes lie with Westminster, who visibly couldn't give a shit now that the votes of fishing communities no longer matter. There is a sense of despair in these communities at how causally whole generations of work have been tossed away.

The SNP, internally, is a bit of a bin fire at present; the kinds of factions and discontents that one would expect when a party has been in government for fourteen years. And yet, it looks likely that, for all the noises off about gender recognition and the Salmond case, that NS will win another massive victory in May. At present, it looks like the support of the Greens will not even be needed. That victory depends in part on Sturgeon's seemingly more humane and focused approach to managing the COVID crisis, but also the way in which Scotland's rejection of Brexit has simple been set aside / ignored, and the Holyrood government treated with utter contempt by Westminster for the last four years, has turbocharged support for another independence referendum. I have no idea when or how Unionists lost the ability to read Scotland, but they really have. Today we had the spectacle of right wing Unionist bigot Andrew Neil and Douglas Ross rambling on television about illegal plebiscites, and the "SNP needing to face the consequences of their actions" if they call one. Lukashenko type stuff to be honest; a call for a crackdown on a vote no one has any intention of calling illegally.

All is not terribly rosy in the SNP garden, but it doesn't matter, as the Unionist opposition is so terrible. On Brexit, it's a bit early to say. A clearer picture will have emerged after the Holyrood elections and with the fuller impacts of Brexit beginning to be felt- we're still in some sort of weird inter-regnum before the full strength of it is felt.