Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Kaka Tim, Mar 10, 2019.
It has blown my mind. I can just about follow the twisted logic of the various Westminster tribes, but in a few years time these votes will be very hard to understand, but it will seem like an intense battle.
....well not necessarily.
I'll speak again after i go see my da
also watching OT at the moment and its been more than one comment about
people subverting democracy
5 sackings/resignations from the Labour front bench tonight after they broke the whip and voted against the second referendum amendment - cue speculation on a significant change in policy coming (which may explain today's lash-up with Alastair Campbell too).
Fuck's sake. it's supposed to be tory cabinet ministers who resign.
Come on Rudd, ya daft racist.
They broke the whip and were asked to resign, which is standard in any party: if nothing else it signals that Corbyn has a firmer grip on his cabinet & party than may does...
At least some of them offered politely to resign. Which is how these things are supposed to be done, traditionally.
Remind me. What was the second referendum amendment?
What Labour policy change would it indicate?
Can see why some members of the suprastate are nervous of any A50 extension; all the time the U.K. retains full membership it holds the power of veto over EU decisions/budget etc. There’s the potential for threat of uncooperative disruption.
For all the spectacle and individual positioning, this week went exactly as expected with no surprises, Mays deal rejected, no deal rejected, extension requested.
The proper crunch still to come...no shocks yet, but it does give the impression when something not yet certain, predictable and meaningful does finally happen it's going to take a fair few MPs with it.
There's a vry suggestion in the more sensible end of Tory leavers that the UK should revoke A50 and just veto everything within the EU until they get bored of us and offer a deal to leave.
It has some attractions...
I think a few months extension should get the job done well. After all it has all been positive for the last few months.
Just need that final push. Couple of little things to sort out and then we're good.
A full pivot to a second referendum I guess. I'm not sure I believe that tbh, but theres defo something in the air.
Sounds like one of those awkward shits
Yeh it'll lull mps into a false sense of security right up to the time they're herded onto barges outside the Palace of Westminster
It strikes me as an odd time to break the whip. I appreciate they may hold deep feelings about this but the vote was never ever going to pass and they were only expected to abstain rather than vote against their belief.
I agree there is probably something more to this.
What does any MEP actually do for that salary, except fuck all?
Nigel Farage is Schrodingers Politician - both responsible for the most significant political event of post-war british history, and a do-nothing slacker.
Brexit: Nigel Farage only turned up to one of 42 EU fisheries committee meetings | Descrier News
Some of them attend the fisheries committee, not nige.
Just tried to look up the lead story about a 4th vote on Mays deal but the Indie website is a nightmare. Probably Indie nonsense
Have to say May wargamers have got it pretty much right so far...they were talking about a series of votes on Mays deal a few months ago, and it does seem to be coming to pass. Nothing written in stone, but this is all going to their plan so far...whether its a plan that will work is another matter.
he's had his chips anyway
further to this, here's Barry Gardiner and Gina Miller this morning: Labour & PV are defo coordinating.
^ reminds me of a Beautiful South lyric,
Don't think of what we can and can't achieve
Perfection like this can't be guaranteed
Hearts get lost, lovers leave
Let's just see what friendship actually needs
And if ever you do wrong I'm right behind you
If ever you may sin, count me in
If that devil doubt should come to find you
Count on me and you don't count on him
If luck should quit this town
If fortune sails
If conversation breaks down
If love derails
I'll be that back up call
If all else fails
I'll swap this bed of roses
For a bed of nails
one, twice, three times a loser
I see on the front cover of that 'I' that they've got an article on how your salary affects your relationship.
Yeah, being fucking skint will do that. Not sure that's worth 65p to find out.
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