BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?

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Brexit crunch - WTF happens next?

This poll will close on Apr 1, 2019 at 8:49 AM.
  1. cross party "soft brexit deal" /Customs Union

    18.5%
  2. UK leaves without deal

    16.9%
  3. 2nd referendum

    11.5%
  4. General Election

    12.3%
  5. Mays deal get through on Tuesday

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Mays deal gets through after a short extension

    10.8%
  7. other - please expand

    3.1%
  8. mays deal rejected again after A50 extension

    12.3%
  9. whole thing cancelled

    14.6%
  1. twentythreedom

    twentythreedom Patterdale Terrorist

    Wut
     
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  2. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    It has blown my mind. I can just about follow the twisted logic of the various Westminster tribes, but in a few years time these votes will be very hard to understand, but it will seem like an intense battle.
     
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  3. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    ....well not necessarily.
     
  4. Ax^

    Ax^ Silly Rabbit

    I'll speak again after i go see my da

    also watching OT at the moment and its been more than one comment about
    people subverting democracy


    :)
     
  5. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    5 sackings/resignations from the Labour front bench tonight after they broke the whip and voted against the second referendum amendment - cue speculation on a significant change in policy coming (which may explain today's lash-up with Alastair Campbell too).
     
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  6. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Fuck's sake. it's supposed to be tory cabinet ministers who resign. :D

    Come on Rudd, ya daft racist. :mad:
     
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  7. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    They broke the whip and were asked to resign, which is standard in any party: if nothing else it signals that Corbyn has a firmer grip on his cabinet & party than may does...
     
  8. SpackleFrog

    SpackleFrog Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts

    At least some of them offered politely to resign. Which is how these things are supposed to be done, traditionally.
     
  9. toblerone3

    toblerone3 Grrrrr

    Remind me. What was the second referendum amendment?
     
  10. alsoknownas

    alsoknownas some bloke

    What Labour policy change would it indicate?
     
  11. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    Can see why some members of the suprastate are nervous of any A50 extension; all the time the U.K. retains full membership it holds the power of veto over EU decisions/budget etc. There’s the potential for threat of uncooperative disruption.
     
  12. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    For all the spectacle and individual positioning, this week went exactly as expected with no surprises, Mays deal rejected, no deal rejected, extension requested.

    The proper crunch still to come...no shocks yet, but it does give the impression when something not yet certain, predictable and meaningful does finally happen it's going to take a fair few MPs with it. :)
     
  13. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    There's a vry suggestion in the more sensible end of Tory leavers that the UK should revoke A50 and just veto everything within the EU until they get bored of us and offer a deal to leave.

    It has some attractions...
     
  14. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    I think a few months extension should get the job done well. After all it has all been positive for the last few months.
     
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  15. tommers

    tommers Your disco needs you

    Just need that final push. Couple of little things to sort out and then we're good.
     
  16. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    A full pivot to a second referendum I guess. I'm not sure I believe that tbh, but theres defo something in the air.
     
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  17. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Trivial details
     
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  18. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Sounds like one of those awkward shits
     
  19. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Yeh it'll lull mps into a false sense of security right up to the time they're herded onto barges outside the Palace of Westminster
     
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  20. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Pogo Suppression System Installed....

    Europa Shrugged.
     
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  21. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    It strikes me as an odd time to break the whip. I appreciate they may hold deep feelings about this but the vote was never ever going to pass and they were only expected to abstain rather than vote against their belief.

    I agree there is probably something more to this.
     
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  22. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    What does any MEP actually do for that salary, except fuck all?
     
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  23. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Nigel Farage is Schrodingers Politician - both responsible for the most significant political event of post-war british history, and a do-nothing slacker.
     
  24. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

  25. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Just tried to look up the lead story about a 4th vote on Mays deal but the Indie website is a nightmare. Probably Indie nonsense
    [​IMG]

    Have to say May wargamers have got it pretty much right so far...they were talking about a series of votes on Mays deal a few months ago, and it does seem to be coming to pass. Nothing written in stone, but this is all going to their plan so far...whether its a plan that will work is another matter.
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2019
  26. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

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  27. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    further to this, here's Barry Gardiner and Gina Miller this morning: Labour & PV are defo coordinating.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  28. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    ^ reminds me of a Beautiful South lyric,

    Don't think of what we can and can't achieve
    Perfection like this can't be guaranteed
    Hearts get lost, lovers leave
    Let's just see what friendship actually needs

    And if ever you do wrong I'm right behind you
    If ever you may sin, count me in
    If that devil doubt should come to find you
    Count on me and you don't count on him

    If luck should quit this town
    If fortune sails
    If conversation breaks down
    If love derails

    I'll be that back up call
    If all else fails
    I'll swap this bed of roses
    For a bed of nails
     
  29. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    one, twice, three times a loser
     
  30. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    I see on the front cover of that 'I' that they've got an article on how your salary affects your relationship.

    Yeah, being fucking skint will do that. Not sure that's worth 65p to find out.
     

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