Bread machine owners
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do you have children? i don't think stale bread is ever much of a problem for family types...I've never made a loaf of homemade bread that's been around for longer than 2 days
mr steev
magic thought wizard
you'll get a more even texture - i find that the paddle on the breadmaker never gets it as well mixed as hand kneading does, and it always comes out a little uneven, and a touch coarse. if you rise it slower, the gluten has longer to get to work, and it does some of the kneading job for you.
interesting article on no-knead bread here - my dad uses a similar minimal contact / long rise method for his sourdough, and i've rarely eaten better bread than his.
interesting article on no-knead bread here - my dad uses a similar minimal contact / long rise method for his sourdough, and i've rarely eaten better bread than his.
^^^
How'd it go?
The LONG loaf was, tbh, not THAT different to the SHORT loaf. But it was ready for waking up, which was nice.
Since then, I've made a sundried tomato and olive rye bread (which was a mess, because of the extra water in the olives - I think
) and there's another Panettone ready in 39 mins The panettone is proper chuffing BOSS
Oh, and I used the 'pizza dough' preparer to make us pizzas for dinner last night Burnt 'em in the oven, but a blatant winner wrt taste / texture (and probably cost, tbh)
How'd it go?
The LONG loaf was, tbh, not THAT different to the SHORT loaf. But it was ready for waking up, which was nice.
Since then, I've made a sundried tomato and olive rye bread (which was a mess, because of the extra water in the olives - I think
) and there's another Panettone ready in 39 mins The panettone is proper chuffing BOSS Oh, and I used the 'pizza dough' preparer to make us pizzas for dinner last night
Burnt 'em in the oven, but a blatant winner wrt taste / texture (and probably cost, tbh) Since getting the bread machine (£129), we've used it a bit more than once per day.
We've probably saved about 50p / loaf; but we've also saved about £12 / pizza (we used to order in once per fortnight or thereabouts, now we make 'em at home instead).
On that basis, I reckon it's just over half-way to paying for itself, in the space of two months
We've probably saved about 50p / loaf; but we've also saved about £12 / pizza (we used to order in once per fortnight or thereabouts, now we make 'em at home instead).
On that basis, I reckon it's just over half-way to paying for itself, in the space of two months
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Tastes about a million times better than supermarket bread too - and getting bread straight out of the oven whenever you want is 
I've yet to make sandwich-friendly bread though ....
I've yet to make sandwich-friendly bread though ....
Mogden
I like tea
My bread maker is right royally battered cos I've used it so much. I could do with a new pan but it costs as much as I can get hold of a new one. I've got a Panasonic SD253 which is years old and paid for itself some time ago. I use it for the usual white loaf but also the pizza dough which is wicked cos it saves me getting my paws gooey. Although I've suddenly got a hankering to put something more speciality on.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
On impulse I bought some Spelt flour, but by all accounts I may need to just use the dough function and actually knead it a bit and cook it in an actual oven. 
I actually have an efficient little fan oven ...
And really good pitas would be nice .. ditto home made pizza...
I actually have an efficient little fan oven ...
And really good pitas would be nice .. ditto home made pizza...
AFAICT, the sole difference between our 'slightly posher' Panasonic bread machine and the other 'slightly less posh' Panasonic bread machine (£10 difference over £120-130, IIRC) is that ours came with a 'rye paddle' and a 'rye bread programme.'
tbh, I would've gone for the £10 cheaper one given the choice; but it was an impulse / procrastination buy and Curry's didn't have any in stock
e2a: NB: this bump was basically bc I was searching out this thread to say 'I fucking love my bread machine,' bc it's next to me in my office, it's 1hr into it's 4hr cycle, and it's just started to make properly fucking lush yeasty bread dough smells.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I wonder if I can buy a "rye paddle" for my Panasonic. ? 
Perhaps... but be aware that it also comes with a 'rye bread programme.'I wonder if I can buy a "rye paddle" for my Panasonic. ?
God only knows what that does. But it's there.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Not sure I've ever had raw dough.
Missed out the yeast once and it was actually just about edible while still warm...
Missed out the yeast once and it was actually just about edible while still warm...
2hats
Dust.
I've been completely converted to hand making them the traditional way. Much more satisfying then using a bread machine and actually not as much kneading required as you might think. Not had a flop yet. As a bonus am not restricted to the puny tin size of typical bread making machines.
My bread machine is languishing, collecting dust on the top of the fridge.
My bread machine is languishing, collecting dust on the top of the fridge.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
It was hand making bread that got me into the bread machine
Man. In many ways, yeah, ok, it wasn't that much hassle.
On the other hand... things like trying to scrape concrete-like dough off a plastic bowl the day after bread making, because I'd forgotten to wash it up on the night... and trying to scrape off concrete-like encrustations on the counter because I'd spent JUST long enough sorting the loaves to let the dough concretise... and having to spend a predictable 2-3hrs around the house, returning to the dough every x minutes and / or giving it another knead etc. And being unable to wake up to warm bread, because it's only really feasible in the evenings.
It's, like, yeah. I enjoyed the product. When it got there. But the peripherals involved so much fucking around. And, tbh, the bread maker produces some pretty damned respectable results of up to about a kg; we've got more than enough gets binned as it is, the last thing we need is bigger loaves
(That said, was given Huge Meatfeast-Eatitall's bread book for Christmas... and some of that'll require hand baking.)
2hats
Dust.
Um... my dough never seems to solidify except on time scales of days and even I clean surfaces more often than that. Always fill the bowl with water when done too. I wake up to warm bread because it takes me about 2 hours to gradually wake up each morning so more than enough time to bake the dough that's been sitting in the oven overnight (actually the oven has a timer facility but I've never bothered setting it). Love large loaves.
Have got the River Cottage bread book. The Dough and Crust books by Richard Bertinet are worth checking out too.
Have got the River Cottage bread book. The Dough and Crust books by Richard Bertinet are worth checking out too.
2hats
Dust.
PS The Real Bread Campaign.
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wobbly
I bake by hand or use the machine depending on what mood i'm in or what the kids want to do. As long as they only get asked to do a couple of batches a week, then my girls will easily enjoy kneeding bread and using it as playdough for a bit, then kneeding it a bit more. I can just leave them to get on with it and have a good hour of peace and quiet while they pummel the crap out of bread. If they don't want to play, then I'll use the rbeadmaker.
Only thing is, I don't have any baking yeast left. I've got wine yeast, that I suspect will do ok for hand made bread, but i'll need to work out how to use it in the breadmaker.
bakunin used to work in a factory that made bread. his comments about what was produced has finally put me off eating bought bread unless I absolutely have to.
Only thing is, I don't have any baking yeast left. I've got wine yeast, that I suspect will do ok for hand made bread, but i'll need to work out how to use it in the breadmaker.
bakunin used to work in a factory that made bread. his comments about what was produced has finally put me off eating bought bread unless I absolutely have to.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
We've just resurrected an old SD 251 from a housemates family shed. We have the advantage of having 7 people using this bread. But a single friend just chops her loaves into halves and freezes them.
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