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Brazil v Germany (Semi Final) Tuesday 8th July 2014

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014 Brazil' started by goldenecitrone, Jul 7, 2014.

  1. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    Yep most of those mistakes happened because the krauts were pushing on and not allowing them the space they like to have and have been afforded by other teams. They had a very good game plan for undoing theim at the back. The Zilians also had no answer to the Germans very organised defense. No flare, no tricks, just Hulk and Fred and the other chunk trying to barge their way through. It was the worst game I've ever seen from a south American side. No imagination at all.
     
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  2. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    which is why neither Argentina nor Netherlands will be a walkover. The former have conceded just one competitive goal in the tournament
     
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  3. Doctor Carrot

    Doctor Carrot Bear Grylls grills bare bears

    This. The Germans are a good side, no doubt about it, but Brazil were just absolutely woeful. Algeria gave Germany a damn good run for their money, as did the yanks, as did Ghana and France could've got more from that dire game if they had a bit more gutso. Germany did play well last night but no better than they've played against other opposition, it's just that other opposition did a better job of defending against them. Brazil were absolutely pathetic in defending yesterday.
     
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  4. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    oh, they're not invincible. Very good though and coming to the boil bang on schedule
     
  5. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

     
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  6. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    By "good" players, at what level? I don't think there's a single England first teamer these days who can't pass or trap a ball well and major club academies (which is where pros are trained, not school playing fields) are obviously going to teach those skills. England's major problem at this tournament wasn't technique, it was decision-making and organisation.
     
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  7. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    Yep. My money's still on Argentina, the most Euro of the South Americans and totally motivated by winning the Cup in Rio
     
  8. mod

    mod A modernist

    Oh yes please! I'd certainly watch that one.
     
  9. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    :thumbs:
    and Rooney
     
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  10. mack

    mack Fact Me Till I Fart

    No way will either Holland or Argentina be as naive or woeful as Brazil - cannot understand what they were thinking. Fucking embarrassing.
     
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  11. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    and Rooney obviously ;)
     
  12. JTG

    JTG Angry about not being able to be an astronaut.

    I think the overall strength of the game is a factor and there are players at Prem level who can't play. I'd disagree with your assessment of the quality of England's squad too. But it all feeds in.
     
  13. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Goes without saying :cool:
     
  14. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    (a) You don't think there are rubbish journeymen and limited players in La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga etc? Come on.
    (b) Is the overall strength of football in Chile an impediment to putting together a national team good enough to take on anyone and play attacking football? How close do you think Nottingham Forest's Gonzalo Jara and Wigan Athletic's Jean Beausejour would get to an England squad? You only need 11, and not all of them even need to be good.
    (c) I didn't make an assessment of the quality of England's squad. I said they can all pass and trap a ball well and are technically proficient footballers. Is that really beyond dispute? How long do you think you hold down a starting position for a team in the Champions League if you can't trap a ball?
     
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  15. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Agree very much about seeing how Colombia would have fared, very different game surely.
     
  16. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    Expectations for a German victory in the Final are now massive, almost as much presssure on them to win as on the poor old Brazilians before last night. Holland are probably a tougher proposition in the Final, looking for revenge for 1974 and also to wipe out the memory of losing to Spain in the last final. I think an average Argentina side could get blasted away like Brazil.
     
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  17. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    I think Argentina are a good deal better than Brazil. They've certainly not been blasted away by anyone and were comfortably in control of their Quarter Final. I think Germany would prefer to play Holland in the final...
     
  18. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    Not yet. Neither had Brazil before last night. Anyway, let's see if they Messi can get them past Holland first.
     
  19. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Until the €7.4m tax fraud case starts after the world cup is over maybe :hmm:
     
  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    A major part of Germany's victory was the way that they managed to avoid being intimidated by the atmosphere and expectations in Brazil and just played their game (with some finesse!). No mean feat, that.
     
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  21. Idris2002

    Idris2002 A kick up the Arás

  22. Idris2002

    Idris2002 A kick up the Arás

    On a less humorous note, an English contact on Facebook - someone with no Brazilian connections at all, btw - was yelling "FIX" at the end of this amazing match. He couldn't possibly be right, could he?
     
  23. girasol

    girasol visual spaceship pilot

    From Facebook:

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  24. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    No. Well, not unless there turns out to be thousands of far East betting syndicates all putting down millions for a 7-1 German victory.
     
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  25. twistedAM

    twistedAM Left Of The Dial

    I wonder if anyone in the world actually got the score right. Only scenario I can think of is someone who was meant to bet 1-1 but forgot to go to specsavers.
     
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  26. The Octagon

    The Octagon Stop......Hammertime

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  27. twistedAM

    twistedAM Left Of The Dial

    Four people had it!!! I guess some people just put a quid on about ten crazy scores on the one game with a chance of one coming up and still being in the money.
    Bookies seemed to take a real hammering and some of the odds in retrospect seemed quite generous. I was watching it with someone who had Germany to win by two goals at 14/1
     
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  28. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    The most 'tweeted' sporting event in the history of Twitter
    35.5m tweets last night :eek:
     
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  29. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    I did....

    In all the low score draw matches :mad:
     
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  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I can still see that passer by's disbelieving face from the pub last night when he was told it was 5-0.

    :D
     

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