It's amazing that I can't find any info about the clocktower on the net other than a link from Urban that it is listed.dogmatique said:The state the clocktower is in at the moment is a crying shame. Should be a well loved local landmark, not a grafitti covered wreck like it is.
They did a great job but everything was done on a shoestring in a very ad hoc way.editor said:I'd say reopening the pub as an arts-based community bar could be a winner.
Cooltan had already proved the demand for live theatre/performance art/poetry/gigs whatever and - thinking selfishly for a moment - it would be the ideal home for Offline!
There's a ton of talent in Brixton but far too few live venues. Despite its huge theatrical history, there's nothing here at all now AFAIK - an upstairs theatre at Brady's could be a real asset to the community.
As for costing, it might be an idea to talk to the previous squatters who did a great job of sorting the venue out.
I went to the planning office with AK last year to look it up and it's not listed.kea said:"You can ring the Listed Buildings Information Service on 020 7208 8221 who will fax you a copy of the listing for one particular building after a three day delay. You can see lists covering your local area and obtain copies of individual entries at your local council planning department, County Council offices and most local reference libraries. The full English national list is kept by English Heritage at the National Monuments Record, Kemble Drive, Swindon SN2 2GZ."
I wasn't being argumentative .kea said:fair enough, just addressing citydream's questions.
Quite. It's a bit like finding the end of a ball of wool but far from impossible.perhaps the first thing to do is set out what's known about it / the situation / its condition / owners / etc?
Am I right in thinking LR can do free land registry searches? I hate to admit it but I don't even have a credit/debit card.flameacademy said:i think you can get some of that info from The Land Regsitry - online - but costs a fiver or something...
Ohhhh, the irony. Never mind. A year has passed and I'm raring to give it another go.From Brixton Central newsletter, October 2004 (unpublished)
Regeneration charity aims to save landmark
Bradys bar in Atlantic Road was loved for decades as a thriving, friendly community pub. It had an impressive reputation as a live music venue: legend has it Jimi Hendrix played there in the ’60s.
Now owned by the council, it stands empty and rotting.
Lambeth now plans to pull down this beautiful Victorian building, whose six-sided clocktower is a Brixton landmark, and build flats on the site.
A group of central Brixton residents wants to save Bradys and reopen it as a much-needed community centre and venue. It is forming a charity to attract National Lottery funding into the neighbourhood.
Central Brixton resident _____ _______ said: “Brixton used to have six theatres and a famous vaudeville tradition. One of my neighbours ‘trod the boards’ for 50 years.
“Yet the area has no theatre, no major community centre, no arts centre and no music school.
If local people don’t get together to provide these facilities, no-one else will.
“Large sums of lottery funding should be flowing into Brixton, which is one of the poorest neighbourhoods in Britain.”
The aim of the new charity is to avoid the mistakes made by the Brixton Challenge initiative and to establish a major charity that remains firmly under the control of local people.
Yeah, that's the one.citydreams said:shit. I don't know if I've got the wrong records
the above is for 22 to 26 (even) Atlantic Road, land to the rear of
18 to 36 (even) Electric Avenue, and land on the
east side of Electric Lane, Brixton
I have a sneaking suspicion that it may be owned by Lambeth, with a housing association having an option on the site.citydreams said:What happened to the owners?
Edited to add: post now superfluous - that's what happens when work gets in the way of composing something on U75hatboy on 2004 community centre thread said:These plans, which are the latest info from Lambeth council, make no provision for Bradys as a venue. They will involve demolishing the gig room.
"Bradys/Phase 2 -
The project comprises a mixed retail and residential development of 90,000
sq ft into the currently poor quality back area behind Brixton underground
station. The proposal includes the development of a multi-modal transport
interchange: road, rail, and underground. The Council has acquired the land
and properteis necessary to undertake the project and a development partner
has obtained planning consent. The Council has engaged with London
Undergound on the commencement of the development now that the station
improvements have reached conclusion. It is intended to incorporate the
Brady's public house into the new development as a leisure/retail
destination, retaining the facade".
"leisure/retail" in English is a shop or a small bar. It will be of no significance IMO. Perhaps some of you should also make your views known on this and save it as a venue before the demolition team move in. It would be good to save more than the facade.
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I'm touched I'm considered an expert! I can't remember anything beyond what's already been mentioned on this thread. I have dropped an email to somebody I might know at Lambeth who might know. It's a crying shame that the building isn't being used for something decent. I'd be quite happy if it were private sector as long it's something interesting like a live music venue or theatre. Just please not a bland block of flats or boring chain storeIntoStella said:I wasn't being argumentative .
You'd be forgiven for assuming the clocktower at least was listed -- I think a lot of people do -- but it isn't. It should be. I'm sure we discussed this before with our resident Lambeth experts. Rabbie? Bob? Pooka? I can't remember. Senile. Quite. It's a bit like finding the end of a ball of wool but far from impossible.