Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by editor, May 5, 2008.
usual circle jerk in full effect today i see...
I'm sure you can continue this in the pub later...
i reckon i've met up with you in the pub more often than anyone else on this thread!
are you off on... is it june 6th? pub in the park.
Get a grip, garf
There aren't two sides of an argument here, one sayingn "alcohol is harmless - glug away!" and the other saying "alcohol kills, even a little bit!"
You know full well that the situation is a lot more nuanced than that.
PS: The last thing I'd want to do is jerk the editor off - my opinions are my own and if I disagree with him I'll say so.
I'm slightly embarrassed that I appear to be agreeing with editor on this - but so be it - can't be helped - I'm only stating my actual opinions.
I can't say the prospect excites me too much either.
*goes for cup of tea to remove the dreadful image now lodged in brain
Over 1300 posts and no ones getting jerked off?
I wonder why BoJo is so anti drinking in public and yet was against the smoking ban despite the overwhelming scientific evidence that second hand smoke damages people's health? Wonder if the up to £10,000 donation he received from the Tobacco industry had anything to do with it?
The RMT union have declared themselves to be very unhappy about Boris's booze ban, declaring it unenforceable.
The ban is such a stupid PR stunt. I completely oppose the tarnishing of anyone who wants to enjoy a drink on the tube as a wrongun, just because there's been the (supposed) occasional rowdy behaviour by a few who have been drunk in the past.
Of course there's no way to measure how much they have drunk before getting on the tubes, and there's no way to stop drunk people travelling anyway. Stupid, thoughtless, PR stunt with no financial support or training to back it up causing headache for staff who I suspect couldn't care less if people drink so long as they behave and don't fuck about.
Well, exactly. If people behave, why should it matter what they're drinking? And if they do misbehave, there's already ample laws in place to penalise them without making up extra unenforceable and pointless legislation that makes no difference at all in the real world.
Presumably this is because it isn't an arrestable offence, as stated earlier in the same article?
Anyway - I have continued to drink on the tube with the same frequency as I did before, and haven't been challenged once.
As for the RMT - why are their members bothering to try and enforce it? Are they now technically required to do something if they see someone drinking - or is it discretional?
Our Northern Line tube to Old Street was packed full of drinkers tonight and the only mild irritation came from a (non-drinking) oddball transsexual dressed in a bizarre Muslim costume who insisted in cavorting around the carriage floor.
Yeah it's odd isn't it.
The RMT allowing their members to become pretend police with the sole power of asking 'offenders' to leave the transport system.
The RMT's Steve Hadley said:
Must have changed for the worse for them since the ban I would have thought for them, amen.
I've just ignored it whenever I have been over to be honest. Carried on as before
. I am more worried about this though
"Kulveer Ranger, said: "We feel it's been a good thing for Londoners, it has improved the environment on the Tube, there's aren't those empty cans and bottles of beer rolling around."
If that is a journo's typo then ok. If not, what the fuck are they doing working in PR
I would strongly suspect that is a typo by the journalist.
i still drink on the tube, mainly going to/from footy matches, and to be honest, no-one ever gives me a second glance. no one really cares!
HELP my eyes have rolled right into the back of my head and won't come back!
I still have the odd drink on the bus. Not had anyone look at me disapprovingly at all. One time, on a fairly busy bus, a 'well to do' lady sat next to me started rummaging in her bag, and pomptly decanted some wine from a bottle into a more anonymous flask
I've seen a few people drinking on the buses since the ban.
I don't think all the seats are visible to the driver and as long as you are not making a nuisance of yourself or someone complained, it's very unlikely the driver would challenge you about it.
As a new arrival I'm really surprised that it was actually allowed in the first place.
Personally I dont really care once they are not causing any trouble to any other passengers. I'd imagine thats a lot of peoples view on it?
Not only was it allowed, there used to be bars on certain tube platforms.
On Berlin's S-Bahn, there's places selling cold beers. On some station platforms there's even tables to perch up at, have a smoke etc. Very civilised over there.
Poo as always I miss the best bits of the party Thats pretty cool though
On longer train journeys I find a few beers (ideally from the offy not the buffet car) is very pleasing.
I suppose that the tubes/buses are a bit more confined but still think the whole things is a bit lame really.
That was a long while ago. I think the last one was the one at Sloane Square which closed in 1985.
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