Boris scraps Congestion Charge Western Extension (and then doesn't. or does he?)

[zenie]

Having recently been to Fulham and surrounds by car, I can't see why folks are so opposed to something cutting down on car use. Well I can, but the fact that every residential road is seemingly a narrow rat run bordered by Mercs, Jags and Golfs packed densely in every space, but it seems slightly paradoxical.

Honestly, it's one of the hardest places to find a parking space anywhere in the Western world. It's hardly as though tradespeople and locals can get around quickly and park willy nilly now.

yeh I sometimes get claustrophobic sitting in heavy traffic round there, and I'm in a mini, the road's are totally blocked with cars, fuck knows how emergency services get through!

... because it cuts down on the liberty of the individual to move around as they choose?

Just think of it as a Toll road then.

Good, if only for the fact that by living in the congestion charge area they get a discount, which means they can drive their shit 4x4s into the centre of town cheaper.

You have a point!

This. Also, nice to see kj is still a selfish wanker

Keyboard jockey??

 

[Badgers]

When the pavement congestion tax comes in I will be off this island in a flash

 

[skyscraper101]

And less than a year later... no action and it looks like this plan will be scrapped.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...urn+on+axing+western+c-charge+zone/article.do

Plans to scrap the western extension of the congestion charge zone have been shelved because of the recession.

Boris Johnson had promised to abolish the charge after a public consultation which had been a key part of his election campaign. But today the Mayor's advisers admitted the west London zone was unlikely to be removed by the planned deadline of next spring and no new date could be given.

They claimed axing the zone had only been an “aspiration” — even though the Mayor had soaked up applause from residents and traders in Portobello Road at the end of the consultation on its future a year ago and said: “The people of London have spoken and we have listened.”

So it was all just an "aspiration"

Great pledge Boris.

 

[ChrisFilter]

And less than a year later... no action and it looks like this plan will be scrapped.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...urn+on+axing+western+c-charge+zone/article.do



So it was all just an "aspiration"

Great pledge Boris.

Totally fucking useless even at the stuff he bigged himself up on.

 

[Ted Striker]

Do you think, when Livingstone reads the papers about the latest Borisism, thinks to himself "Just how hated was I in London?"

 

[teuchter]

And less than a year later... no action and it looks like this plan will be scrapped.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...urn+on+axing+western+c-charge+zone/article.do



So it was all just an "aspiration"

Great pledge Boris.

Hee hee

 

[London_Calling]

Do you think, when Livingstone reads the papers about the latest Borisism, thinks to himself "Just how hated was I in London?"

He wasn't. His vote increased in inner London. It was the suburbs who kicked Ken out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_mayoral_election,_2008

Half of businesses surveyed wanted the extension scrapped

Which also means . . .

 

[skyscraper101]

Do you think, when Livingstone reads the papers about the latest Borisism, thinks to himself "Just how hated was I in London?"

He must be pretty amused and yet angry at the same time for being kicked out partly on a pledge that wouldn't be delivered.

Still, more ammunition for is re-election campaign I guess.

 

[Stoat Boy]

Well thats my vote he has lost.

Tosser. I really hoped that getting rid of the Western extension would be the beginning of ridding the entire city of it.

 

[skyscraper101]

Hes just denied it on Twitter.

I said I wld listen to Londoners, they said they don’t want it. Whatever you hear otherwise, I will be removing the WEZ

 

[ymu]

I don't want passenger numbers, I just want to know how much the bus fleet grew by!

This is a very delayed reply, but ...

You don't really need them. The report says they had 71,000 more passengers (ie the extra 70,000 aj claimed were stranded). They coped. Job done.

 

[Stoat Boy]

Hes just denied it on Twitter.

Actions speak louder than words Boris. Scrap is NOW.

 

[Boycey]

Well thats my vote he has lost.

Tosser. I really hoped that getting rid of the Western extension would be the beginning of ridding the entire city of it.

you believed tory boy.

 

[London_Calling]

Johnson seems to define the term 'risen without trace': A done nuthin, got nuthin kinda guy.

 

[mike desantos]

Still, more ammunition for is re-election campaign I guess.

You`re having a laugh aren`t you? There must be an alternative to him or
Boris surely?

 

[Azrael]

Well thats my vote he has lost.

Tosser. I really hoped that getting rid of the Western extension would be the beginning of ridding the entire city of it.

While I sympathise with businesses hit by the charge, and would probably support some more exemptions, if train passengers have to pay to use a utility they already subsidise upto the signalboxes, I don't see why drivers can't be asked to as well.

 

[Isambard]

The actual number of new buses is "that" key an issue.
Its plays a role, sure and I subjectively think there were more buses on the roads.

What is just is important is the capacity of the buses, the number of seats per hour per route (think quicker TAT of the vehicle over the route) and the willingness of passengers to stand for journeys that took less time.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

Surely scrapping the congestion charge, like any action that would make London cheaper, is an open invitation to the plebs to just walk in whenever they feel like it?

 

[Azrael]

The actual number of new buses is "that" key an issue.
Its plays a role, sure and I subjectively think there were more buses on the roads.

What is just is important is the capacity of the buses, the number of seats per hour per route (think quicker TAT of the vehicle over the route) and the willingness of passengers to stand for journeys that took less time.

They could get on with building the Chelsea-Hackney tube line while they're about it. Cut fares into the barain. The sensible thing would be to raise the CC for non-essential vehicles while lowering fares. The Congestion Charge I don't have a problem with: but failing to incentivise other forms of transport is asinine.

 

[Boycey]

Johnson seems to define the term 'risen without trace': A done nuthin, got nuthin kinda guy.

apart from the met snafu he's kept his head down- likely to prevent any major fuck ups in the run up to the general election. once we get (or don't get if pigs sprout wings) cameron i expect he'll be let off his leash.

 

[London_Calling]

You might be right, I'm just not sure he has the political ability or vision. Not much good will towards Johnson around County Hall either.

 

[Boycey]

wouldn't disagree with you there, i just think there's a bloody good reason we aren't seeing much of him.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

The trouble is, if everyone was able to choose their own route, central London would seize up. There simply isn't enough road space for everyone who wants to drive through to do so.

this is based on the fallacy that everyone previously did; yet a month before the ccharge came in the traffic levels were already at the expect reductions which were forecast for the following year of ccharge levels...

It's amazing this lie keeps being trotted out year in year out traffic levels were falling in the capital prior to the ccharge anyway without need for an expensive cost everyone one in london regardless of whether you drove or not (via council tax increases in the mayors part of this) which meant we ended up paying twice, regardless...

 

[teuchter]

this is based on the fallacy that everyone previously did; yet a month before the ccharge came in the traffic levels were already at the expect reductions which were forecast for the following year of ccharge levels...

It's amazing this lie keeps being trotted out year in year out traffic levels were falling in the capital prior to the ccharge anyway without need for an expensive cost everyone one in london regardless of whether you drove or not (via council tax increases in the mayors part of this) which meant we ended up paying twice, regardless...

Link to the figures themselves?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Link to the figures themselves?

see previous millions of threads ad nausium...

 

[teuchter]

see previous millions of threads ad nausium...

Link to relevant link contained in one of million threads ad nauseum?