Boris scrapping Kens travel fare freeze

[ethel]

Unless you're travelling to south london. Actually that was my real gripe with oyster when i visited london. it wasn't integrated properly with the trains. So it's a real bugger if you get one, and then one of the tube lines is out and you have to go via london bridge or liverpool street. Then you have to pay again even if you've hit maximum cap on your oyster.

should be sorted out by the end of this year!

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It's certainly true that London has the most extensive and cheapest bus service in the UK. I think people are worried that it may not stay that way with Tosser Johnson. He's proving every bit as useless as I feared he would. It's not a good advert for democracy that a fool like him should reach high office.

 

[HackneyE9]

It's certainly true that London has the most extensive and cheapest bus service in the UK. I think people are worried that it may not stay that way with Tosser Johnson. He's proving every bit as useless as I feared he would. It's not a good advert for democracy that a fool like him should reach high office.

I'm worried about this too. Ken was saying in his London Paper column the other day that 'watch out of year three' of Boris - that's when he'll do the damage.

This is year two.

 

[HackneyE9]

Unless you're travelling to south london. Actually that was my real gripe with oyster when i visited london. it wasn't integrated properly with the trains. So it's a real bugger if you get one, and then one of the tube lines is out and you have to go via london bridge or liverpool street. Then you have to pay again even if you've hit maximum cap on your oyster.

Point of fact. It wasn't that it wasn't "integrated" properly with the trains, it's that the privatised Train Operating Companies refused to play ball.

They've now been dragged kicking and screaming into accepting it, but only as TFL agreed to pay the costs of installing all the machines.

 

[Iguana]

This is year two.

This is year one, he took office less than 8 months ago.

 

[cybertect]

Point of fact. It wasn't that it wasn't "integrated" properly with the trains

Apart from the fact that they missed the opportunity to bring the overland rail services under London Transport in 1933 (creation of London Transport) 1947 (nationalisation under the British Transport Commission), 1970 (transfer to the GLC) and again in 2000 (creation of TfL)

 

[HackneyE9]

Apart from the fact that they missed the opportunity to bring the overland rail services under London Transport in 1933 (creation of London Transport) 1947 (nationalisation under the British Transport Commission), 1970 (transfer to the GLC) and again in 2000 (creation of TfL)

But those are different "they"s, aren't they? I don't, for example, think New Labour in 2000 "missed" the opportunity to put the ATOCs under Ken Livinsgtone's control - I think they didn't do it deliberately.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

If you increased the congestion charge by say 8000% it'd be easy to pay for cheaper tube tickets.

 

[cybertect]

But those are different "they"s, aren't they? I don't, for example, think New Labour in 2000 "missed" the opportunity to put the ATOCs under Ken Livinsgtone's control - I think they didn't do it deliberately.

What? You mean that Tony didn't trust him?

 

[HackneyE9]

What? You mean that Tony didn't trust him?

Tony "I'd support the CC - if only the technology worked" Blair?

More fool him for not trusting Ken. Ken's a details man and logistics fiend as well as a visionary and socialist with balls of steel. Unlike Blair.