Boris Johnson's bike nicked
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What?
fjydj
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I think I've been to brick lane once and never noticed any bikes, which street are they to be found and are they sold every day?
http://www.towerhamletswheelers.org.uk/campaigns/stolenbikes_bricklane.html
no updates for 18 months, what has happened to bike thefts in the area?
Thefts in Tower Hamlets
To June (year)
01-02 - 721
02-03 - 861
03-04 - 1245
The telegraph quotes 80,000 bike thefts a year in London so Tower Hamlets must be up massively on 2003-04 and 439,000 "in this country" unclear if that's UK or England. Thats a massive number, can't bike theft be made an environmental crime?
http://www.towerhamletswheelers.org.uk/campaigns/stolenbikes_bricklane.html
no updates for 18 months, what has happened to bike thefts in the area?
Thefts in Tower Hamlets
To June (year)
01-02 - 721
02-03 - 861
03-04 - 1245
The telegraph quotes 80,000 bike thefts a year in London so Tower Hamlets must be up massively on 2003-04 and 439,000 "in this country" unclear if that's UK or England. Thats a massive number, can't bike theft be made an environmental crime?
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
fjydj said:
Painful looking figures, but to put that increase into perspective, cycle use in London doubled between 2000 and 2005.
The number of thefts seems to be rising in line with the increase in bike use, maybe even a little lower.
Cloud
Omar Commin!
The only alternative is registration and that would cost money and put even more bikers off plus imo defeats the freedom only a bicycle has. You buy it and ride it voila!
My only suggestion would be to never leave an expensive bike anywhere apart from inside the house.
Do they nick crappy bikes? If I was to commute a few miles I'd use a sub £100 MTB.
Bike parks would be the ideal solution although again incurring a cost and space.
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mm i forgot how easy they ring stolen motorcycles never mind a push bike
My only suggestion would be to never leave an expensive bike anywhere apart from inside the house.
Do they nick crappy bikes? If I was to commute a few miles I'd use a sub £100 MTB.
Bike parks would be the ideal solution although again incurring a cost and space.
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mm i forgot how easy they ring stolen motorcycles never mind a push bike
but as the main purpose of riding a bike is to travel from A to B, it's no use at all if you won't leave your bike anywhere other than A.
My friend lost a brand spanking new bike two days after she got it, after leaving it locked outside a supermarket for five minutes on her way home, in broad daylight in a busy area. She's now saying she won't leave her bike anywhere, but what's the point of having it then?
I don't think there is much that you can do which isn't signficantly cutting down on the enjoyment and practicality of having a bike.
Cloud
Omar Commin!
Yes I sympathize totally, I've always lived pretty skint but never had the desire to rob anything, I dunno what is going on in their mindset. I should imagine most of it is to fund drug addictions, I'm sure it's not entirely a criminal goldpot to deal in nicked bicycles.
I guess theoretically you could keep a heroin addict on the NHS but crack addict? I just really don't know. Police should stop bothering about anything apart from cocaine, switch all the heroin users to NHS and get all the crack off the streets.
I guess theoretically you could keep a heroin addict on the NHS but crack addict? I just really don't know. Police should stop bothering about anything apart from cocaine, switch all the heroin users to NHS and get all the crack off the streets.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
The best solution would be a bike that is a lock at the same time - i.e. you couldn't nick it without destroying it. I don't see how this would be too difficult to make.
There was a Swedish(?) folding bike desgined like that, where a tensioned cable replaced part of the frame, but could be wrapped around stuff as a lock. Very expensive and a weird frame shape. I remember seeing it mentioned in the Evening standard, after it had been nicked while on loan to a journalist (who left it locked).
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
fjydj said:
Ive had about 6 + £1000 bikes stolen from me. Each time they were locked. Each time they were postcoded. The police couldn't do fuck all.
The reason people don't replace them is because the insurance companies are a bunch of thieving shit eating cunts. Every time my bike was stolen I had to pay a bigger premium, never mind the fact my insurance was costing me around £180 a year.
Then I went to France and a bunch of cunts stole my custom specialised. THe insurance company offered me about enough to pay for one of the wheels. I would be very interested to find out where this place in Brick lane is, I didn't earn alot when i had these expensive bikes, each theft hit me hard financially i would fucking love to go down there and stir it a bit.
Maybe cos i am still pissed and think of myself like john rambo.
Rather than the Brian Cant I am
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Are tracking chips the answer?
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
probably. The vigilante in me would like to think death is the answer.
Here, i leave my bike (a city tourer) locked to itself outside on a very busy street. Come down in the morning it's still here. My lodger rides a Kona, does the same.
Here, i leave my bike (a city tourer) locked to itself outside on a very busy street. Come down in the morning it's still here. My lodger rides a Kona, does the same.
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
likesfish said:tracker device two pound of pe in the bike frame then kaboom
i reckon 1o dead bike thieves and the police might sstart taking bike theft seriously
I like.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Lets' do it! I'm not sure were to begin though.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
explosives not to difficult
guess the detonator would have to be set off by mobile phone
mobile phone, simply hooking the wires from the vibrator of a mobile phone into a simple amplifier circuit, and then to the detonators. The disadvantage of this system would be that if a complete stranger dialled the wrong number at the wrong moment, the effects could be catastrophic. The advantage is that the device can be detonated at any time, from anywhere in the world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A676352
courtesy of the bbc
could just use some dye bombs if we were feeling mercyfull
or a baseball bat if not and want to see the fucker hurt
the tracker would be the tricky bit
guess the detonator would have to be set off by mobile phone
mobile phone, simply hooking the wires from the vibrator of a mobile phone into a simple amplifier circuit, and then to the detonators. The disadvantage of this system would be that if a complete stranger dialled the wrong number at the wrong moment, the effects could be catastrophic. The advantage is that the device can be detonated at any time, from anywhere in the world.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A676352
courtesy of the bbc
could just use some dye bombs if we were feeling mercyfull
or a baseball bat if not and want to see the fucker hurt
the tracker would be the tricky bit
likesfish
You can't park here sir
fjydj
is specified
Has anyone used a motorcycle disk lock on their bicycle in conjunction with another lock, weight issue aside are there any problems with this idea? I am thinking that the disk brake lock would fit through the chainring and stay and stop the chain from rotating. Obviously this needs a single chainring, won't fit a triple and won't stop lifting into a van but should be a bit harder to remove than the standard bike lock alone, I've even found one with an alarm in it too:
http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=19&pid=122&p=
seems a stronger option than the thin cabled alarm lock I've been looking at.
http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&id=19&pid=122&p=
seems a stronger option than the thin cabled alarm lock I've been looking at.
roryer
道可道非常道，名可名非常名
KeyboardJockey said:
Agree that the police waste their time on chasing around after drugs and eco-protestors, and should start to chase after bicycle theives instead which is actually crime, and a a really annoying one at that.
There's nothing innocent about motorists though, almost 3500 children were killed or seriously injured on British roads by motorists last year, a much more serious problem than terrorism.
IMO any motorist breaking the law, especially driving more than 30mph in an urban area, should be put into jail, zero tolerance first timers still should serve at least a month if they exceed 40mph in a 30mph limit, make the space in the jails by freeing all drug related 'criminals'. Parking criminals should just lose their license permanantly and have their cars crushed.
fjydj said:
I got a motorcycle chain lock for my £65 racer (along with another separate lock). It's an absolute beast, and although I doubt anyone will bother having a go at it, it's completely ruined the point of cycling. It weights a bloody ton, all the metal, and that weight is either dragging on my back or making the back of the bike weight-weird. If you still want to get one though, I'd recommend getting it off ebay. I got mine for about £15, when in the high street shops they seem to cost around £100
Sadly, perhaps the best way to stop your bike getting nicked is to lock it near a nicer-looking bike
(london cyclist btw)
Just watched the London Programme doco "Gone in 60 Seconds" that the Op was about. http://www.itvlocal.com/london/documentaries/ (on the right).
Ive got to say I was like "TEEF!! BEAT HIM!" when the police took down the theives in the decoy sting
But Im none the wiser re bike locks. They had £25-£40 locks off in 8 seconds with a junior hacksaw.
They had £100 locks off in 10 seconds with bolt cutters. D locks, cable they all fell in seconds.
Abus and Kriptonite responded with "Our products meet/exceed all international security standards." The Fuck.
So basically Im riding about with £400 worth of bike and its down to luck whether it gets nicked or not? What lock should I be using? The Show said use a D lock, but 20 mins before, they had shucked off a £100 D lock off in seconds.
Is it worth spending the extra on locks? You are supposed to spend 10% of the price of the bike on a bike, but its probably more like having to spend freaking 50% just to get the opportunist theiving bastards to move on to some other sucker's bike.
But as has been pointed out to me, you wouldnt lock up your plasma screen outside and then be surprised it got nicked.
And whats to be done about Brick Lane?
Ive got to say I was like "TEEF!! BEAT HIM!" when the police took down the theives in the decoy sting
But Im none the wiser re bike locks. They had £25-£40 locks off in 8 seconds with a junior hacksaw.
They had £100 locks off in 10 seconds with bolt cutters. D locks, cable they all fell in seconds.
Abus and Kriptonite responded with "Our products meet/exceed all international security standards." The Fuck.
So basically Im riding about with £400 worth of bike and its down to luck whether it gets nicked or not? What lock should I be using? The Show said use a D lock, but 20 mins before, they had shucked off a £100 D lock off in seconds.
Is it worth spending the extra on locks? You are supposed to spend 10% of the price of the bike on a bike, but its probably more like having to spend freaking 50% just to get the opportunist theiving bastards to move on to some other sucker's bike.
But as has been pointed out to me, you wouldnt lock up your plasma screen outside and then be surprised it got nicked.
And whats to be done about Brick Lane?
I just watched that prog as well and the thing that got me the most was the unrepentant guy who'd just paid £50 for a bike off some kid, and when confronted was all indignant about how he couldn't afford to lose £50 etc etc.
Where does he think this bike has come from? He's just as guilty as the theif IMO.
If people weren't prepared to buy stolen bikes then there'd be no market for them.
Where does he think this bike has come from?
He's just as guilty as the theif IMO.If people weren't prepared to buy stolen bikes then there'd be no market for them.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
My girlfriends bike was stolen last Friday. We'd just completely serviced it, replaced the back tyre and inner and it had a 80 euro baby seat on it.
Cunts. It's an obvious 'mothers' bike - she uses it all the time. Time to fork out again - that's 4 bikes stolen in 3 years...
Cunts.
It's an obvious 'mothers' bike - she uses it all the time. Time to fork out again - that's 4 bikes stolen in 3 years...Im glad you said that actually. I could NOT believe that guy!beeboo said:I just watched that prog as well and the thing that got me the most was the unrepentant guy who'd just paid £50 for a bike off some kid, and when confronted was all indignant about how he couldn't afford to lose £50 etc etc.
Where does he think this bike has come from?
If people weren't prepared to buy stolen bikes then there'd be no market for them.
Seriously- I was open mouthed.
First he lies about having had the bike for ages, and then he starts with "I cant afford to lose £50, and THAT'S why I bought it!"
But why didnt the programme makers call the police about him, and also the thieving fuck who stole the bike to ride himself? That guy lied continuously about owning the bike and then just let the programme makers take it.
The police should have been called there and then and their faces should have been shown.
They should be branded. Sharia for bike thieves.
Im so sorry for that. Four bikes wow. For sure I would have given up by now.Structaural said:My girlfriends bike was stolen last Friday. We'd just completely serviced it, replaced the back tyre and inner and it had a 80 euro baby seat on it.
Cunts.
Are you insured? is it even really worth it?
Also, whilst it was good to see the police operating 'stings' to catch bike thieves, why can't they just get themselves round to Brick Lane every week and stop them selling them?
I think they're onto a loser trying to stop the thefts, but I would have thought it would be easier to check the market for stolen bikes, and cut off the demand.
I think they're onto a loser trying to stop the thefts, but I would have thought it would be easier to check the market for stolen bikes, and cut off the demand.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Melinda said:
Thanks. I'm investigating insurance (now) but it's endemic here in Amsterdam, part and parcel of life here - you have to consider that you'll lose a bike a year. But you need a bike here - it's the only way to travel...
We never paid more than 150 euros for any of them at least (except my new bike which was 250 - but I lock that with two locks).
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