ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
She's right, but...
If they can present a case for it not being cost alone, then they get off scot-free.
Indeed.
Boris bum-shags the elderly, the disabled and anklebiters.
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If they can present a case for it not being cost alone, then they get off scot-free.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
I think there is a difficult debate to be had about the cost of step-free access for some stations and the alternative ways that money could be spent. A guy I know who does engineering work for the tube said one station (I can't remember which) was going to cost £85m and they were trying to work out if it should be done. Although step-free access is obviously important I'm not too sure that would be the best use of £85m.
Having said that, I know South Ken station and you are right - £50m seems an absurd figure considering they don't have to dig a hundred foot lift shaft through solid rock or anything. You wonder if there's some dodgy dealing going on behind the scenes.
Having said that, I know South Ken station and you are right - £50m seems an absurd figure considering they don't have to dig a hundred foot lift shaft through solid rock or anything. You wonder if there's some dodgy dealing going on behind the scenes.
You have to remember that most of London's tube stations were built over a hundred years ago and it would probably very difficult, if not impossible, to install lift/level access. I would have thought that a lot of them are listed too so that would put restrictions on what work could be done to them.
Incidentally a few stations did have lifts when they first opened, but were converted to escalator access later on to improve capacity.
Well the Circle and District platforms are, I'm sure the Piccadilly line is a lot deeper.
I am glad I can use steps. I paid a visit to 'that there London' on Sunday and found that the escalator at Euston going down to the Northern line tube was out of action due to maintenance. Sure enough there was a man with a spanner on the case so it was genuine. However anyone not able bodied would have been completely flummoxed by the deep spiral staircase that had to be descended.
Admittedly information in advance about maintenance on London Underground is available, but not everyone plans every part of their journey in advance.
As for Boris, I doubt if he is deliberately going out of his way to disadvantage the less able bodied, he has to manage the money. He is a maverick with some fantastical notions because of his unworldly background but surely not malicious.
Admittedly information in advance about maintenance on London Underground is available, but not everyone plans every part of their journey in advance.
As for Boris, I doubt if he is deliberately going out of his way to disadvantage the less able bodied, he has to manage the money. He is a maverick with some fantastical notions because of his unworldly background but surely not malicious.
untethered
For industry & decency
I don't think people should use bad language or practise sodomy.
It'd be good for Tube stations to be more accessible, though.
It'd be good for Tube stations to be more accessible, though.
Bahnhof Strasse
Let's av ya fuckin' dancin'!
I like to use bad language whilst sodomizing.
Couldn't give a fuck about the tube, use it less than once a year, if that.
Couldn't give a fuck about the tube, use it less than once a year, if that.
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Most train stations were built along time ago.. Leeds station only just got round to fitting passenger accessible lifts a few years ago..
.. I would be surprised if that many tube stations were listed buildings, though, and even so, would altering the interior wreck the outward apperance...
...I've never seen any that seem like listed building material, though..
Ultimately though, they should be usuable by ALL people, in pushchairs, wheelchairs. Saying "we won't change it because it costs too much/ doesn't look pretty" isnt good enough.
scifisam
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Most train stations were built along time ago.. Leeds station only just got round to fitting passenger accessible lifts a few years ago..
.. I would be surprised if that many tube stations were listed buildings, though, and even so, would altering the interior wreck the outward apperance...
...I've never seen any that seem like listed building material, though..
Ultimately though, they should be usuable by ALL people, in pushchairs, wheelchairs. Saying "we won't change it because it costs too much/ doesn't look pretty" isnt good enough.
Train stations aren't underground, though. It's much, much more difficult to make changes underground than overground. Interiors can be listed as well - it wouldn't surprise me if some of the tiling, for example, at some stations was listed.
It does all mean that, for some stations, it just won't be practical to make them accessible. For some stations I'd say it probably is physically impossible. But not for South Ken.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Its actually pretty important, it carries more passengers than the rest of the rail network if i'm not mistaken, no doubt 'CityDreams' will validate this.
Sadly this is quite true and you only have to look at the escalator replacement at Brixton tube station to see how long and hard a seemingly simple thing can take on the tube.
Now scale that up to 6 platforms and the fact that not only do you have the main escalator to contend with but various small steps and having to sink new shafts and it really is a logistical nightmare and in some cases simply impossible.
Remember there is a massive hole in upgrade budgets after all the PFI crap.
I wonder if they could somehow modify the escalators to take wheelchairs? I have no idea how but it's the only way I can see network wide wheelchair access coming to the tube anytime soon.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
You should write and ask for an explanation. This flies in the face of many fine words from the current incumbent and his predecessor, as well as things like the DED.20ft???
The fuckers are saying it'd cost them £50 million to give South Ken step-free accessibility, and using that as a reason not to do so.
I'd love to know how the fuckety-fuck they arrived at that figure!!
I mean, I'll acknowledge that the local geology isn't brilliant, and is probably full of old shite from the last time the station had a major update in the 1930s, but FFS!
T & P
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I think anal sex is cunting brilliant, myself. Though this might not be the best forum to discus it.
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