Bob Woolmer dead

[goldenecitrone]

The question is... how rotten is it?



The question almost doesn't bear thinking about, cricket, corrupt? Dear god please no.

It's such a masonic game, didn't you know?

 

[Jazzz]

It's such a masonic game, didn't you know?

this is true

 

[Nemo]

Inziman ul Haq is being questioned again.

Apparently he and Mushtaq are 'completing formalities.' Cricinfo says they're being questioned 'briefly.'

 

[Barking_Mad]

........

Jamaican detectives are investigating reports that murdered Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer was involved in a furious row with members of his squad hours before he died.

Police have been told that Woolmer was in an argument on the team bus shortly after the side's humiliating World Cup defeat by Ireland last Saturday.

South African Clive Rice, who was coach at Nottinghamshire when Woolmer was in charge at Warwickshire, said Woolmer knew exactly who had been involved in some of cricket's biggest scandals. Rice said that during a game in England in 1999, Woolmer gave him the names of senior cricket officials secretly involved in some of the earlier fixing incidents.

Woolmer was coach of South Africa when their captain, Hansie Cronje, was convicted of match-fixing. Five years ago Cronje died in a mystery plane crash which Rice insists was also murder. "Bob told me a lot that never came out,' said Rice. "I'm not just talking about other players being involved, but officials too."

Amid reports of a commotion at Kingston police station, he also said that both were still, as of yesterday afternoon, at the Ritz Carlton, the Montego Bay hotel where the team were now staying. Further vital clues might have been provided by two police officers who were supposed to be on duty on the 12th floor of the Pegasus hotel, where Woolmer was staying when he died.

Police sources have claimed that the officers were away from their post when Woolmer was strangled some time after midnight last Sunday. Shields refused to comment.

But he disclosed that investigators suspect drugs secreted in the burly former Kent player's last room-service dinner were used to subdue him.

Shields said: "He was 6ft 1in and a big man, and unless he was drugged or impaired it would perhaps have been difficult to restrain him. We are looking at whether his food was drugged.

"The meal was thrown away after he put the tray outside his room but we are conducting toxicology and tissue tests."

Woolmer was staying in Room 375 at the Pegasus, feet away from West Indies captain Brian Lara, and spent his last hours taking room service and sending emails.

In a message sent to wife Gill at 3am he said his team's loss to Ireland had been 'devastating'. He was killed shortly afterwards. The door had not been prised open and police found no sign of a struggle.

Jamaica is renowned for high levels of violence but any criminal would have been caught on camera the instant they walked into the hotel lobby. Woolmer's body, which had been moved from the blood-splattered bathroom to the lounge, was discovered by a cleaner at 10am.

Mr Mir described a harrowing scene with Woolmer slumped between the toilet and door. "There was vomit on the walls and blood and diarrhoea in the toilet,' he said. Nausea and diarrhoea are symptomatic of chloroform poisoning.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...article_id=444416&in_page_id=1770&ito=newsnow

 

[Barking_Mad]

from the San Fransisco Post of all place.......

John Issa, chairman of the board of directors of the hotel, said Friday that there are no records of anyone else entering Woolmer's room with a card key.

"The records show that no one entered because the keys are electronic and we would have seen this," he said. Police are reviewing closed-circuit videos from the hotel.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/23/international/i150126D55.DTL

from the same article -

Former Pakistan fast bowler Sarfraz Nawaz has claimed that Woolmer, a former player for England, was killed because he was writing a book that would expose illegal gambling in the sport.

Pakistan team spokesman Pervez Jamil Mir told reporters that Woolmer was upset that proofs of his book had gone missing.

"Bob told me the proofs had been misplaced and he was very disturbed." Mir said. "I don't know what was in the book but that was his only copy at the time."

 

[david dissadent]

CCTV footage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6493931.stm

 

[gunneradt]

Inziman ul Haq is being questioned again.

5 to 1 he sat on him.

 

[Julie]

He was poisoned?

It's very sad

 

[ICB]

I don't understand why they're only looking at the CCTV now, surely they'd have secured it and started viewing it within 24 hours. And why would you tell everyone? It all seems a bit weird.

The only explanation I can think of is that they've had it, reviewed it, found nothing and are releasing the "news" about it in an attempt to spark a reaction.

Whatever's going on the whole thing is completely tragic

 

[The Black Hand]

I don't understand why they're only looking at the CCTV now, surely they'd have secured it and started viewing it within 24 hours. And why would you tell everyone? It all seems a bit weird.

The only explanation I can think of is that they've had it, reviewed it, found nothing and are releasing the "news" about it in an attempt to spark a reaction.

Whatever's going on the whole thing is completely tragic

Not so sure - professional standards will be as low as the British plods were before Stephen Lawrence. They probably did not think of CCTV at first and went to interview,secure scene, DNA first... Pressure was on cos of important people around. How did that White cop get to be in charge too?

 

[Brockway]

I can't remember a murder that feels as "fictional" as this. It's like a Whodunnit. I keep expecting Miss Marple to turn up and gather everyone in the library - it's bizarre.

 

[Dirty Martini]

It's made for Morse. Dalziel would complain about the heat and humidity, Columbo lacks knowledge of the game.

Fwiw, I think they'll finger the suspect(s) but it might be a job tracking them down. It's all very sad.

 

[Giles]

Not so sure - professional standards will be as low as the British plods were before Stephen Lawrence. They probably did not think of CCTV at first and went to interview,secure scene, DNA first... Pressure was on cos of important people around. How did that White cop get to be in charge too?

Mark Shields was seconded to work with the Jamaican police investigating an alleged "shoot to kill" policy amongst some of their police, and then employed as part of a drive to bring people with different experience (and maybe less likely to succumb to local corruption) into the police there.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article1549833.ece

Giles..

 

[waterloowelshy]

can the South African Gov or the British Govn for that matter not send their own police over to sort the investigation out?

He was living in South Africa but not sure if he retined his British citizenship. either way could one or the other not send somebody over to try to sort out what appears to be a bit of a mess?

 

[g force]

It only appears to be a mess because of media specualtion, due to the police not telling them the ins and outs of the investigation.

 

[ICB]

can the South African Gov or the British Govn for that matter not send their own police over to sort the investigation out?

He was living in South Africa but not sure if he retined his British citizenship. either way could one or the other not send somebody over to try to sort out what appears to be a bit of a mess?

Could be seen as patronising colonial bastards syndrome unless it was done very carefully; I suspect with Shields out there the powers that be won't see it as necessary.

Some red top had a story yesterday about two Pakistan supporters from Britain being in the frame and on the run.