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Jayen4 said:
O.K. Let me try to explain my views to (all of) you...

I do not base my (polictical,for want of a better word) views on someones skin colour. No,I base my views on how 'foreign people' treat this country....i.e. their attitude.
Lets start with the 'Asians'...pakistani's and Indians... Quite a lot of them 'use' this country as a 'cash cow',they do not respect this country. I have in fact been told personally (by a Pakistani) that one day,they will rule us in our own country ! Indeed,some of them want Sharia (sp?) law for everyone in this country (even the white people)!! They do not respect the white british people. The younger generation in particular are way too arrogant,with respect to this.
The Serbs/croations etc..... They too,generally have a poor attitude to this country and ceratain pockets of them are too ready to get into criminal behaviour.
The Polish generally keep a lower profile,but a lot of them have been over here purely for the better wages. I have noticed that recently,a lot of them have been returning to Poland,now that their economy has improved.
Of the others,Somali's etc etc....Why are they all intent on coming to this particular country ?
So....I think that ANY foreigner who comes to this country,should abide by our rules and laws,not try to impose their own culture on MY country, If they're working here,then they should support this economy,not be sending everything they can back to their own country. (Instance: A Pakistani fella that I know,who runs his own crash repair garage,every year,he works for so many months and then goes back to Pakistsan for 3 months,specifically to avoid paying any tax). Is that supporting this country ?
Any of them that are found to be connected with anything illegal or terrorism,should be removed from the country permanently. That Abu Hamsa (is that him?) and his likes,who are openly spouting about attacking this country should be shot on sight imo !
So,what I'm saying is that any foreigner (of whatever skin colour) should respect this country and try to fit in,not be trying to subvert us.
As for supporting the BNP.....I have identified certain things in their speeches (policies) that seem to align with my personal views. Certain things that they say and do,DO concern me somewhat,but I am still at the 'investigation' stage with them. At the moment ,I view them as a 'Nationalist' (i.e. Looking out for Britain first) party and that's what I'm looking for. I believe that we should remove ourselves from 'Europe' completely. That doesn't prevent us from doing trade with them......It's just that WE should be in control of this country,not some european 'super state' ! Our current government is totally crap,in my view !

I know that I ramble a bit and that I'm all over the place,but I hope you now understand my beliefs and motives.
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I had prepared a reasoned paragraph explaining why I disagree but the urge to tell you to fuck off overrode it:(

I mean really:( depressing.
 
Jayen4 said:
O.K. Let me try to explain my views to (all of) you...<snip>

I know that I ramble a bit and that I'm all over the place,but I hope you now understand my beliefs and motives.
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yeh, that's really helped and I'm sure you'll be the belle of the Urban ball from hereon in.
 
I should add that I've never much been into politics...
From what I've written so,far,which political party do you think I belong ?? I'm confused !
 
It's always suspect when someones reduced to looking at 'The' asians and 'The Polish rather than 'Polish people' or 'asian people'

dehumanising implicit in the language used
 
Jeff Robinson said:
Well, I certainly agree with him there - child abuse is wrong after all,
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Who was it who said, to a crowded BNP meeting: “him and me didn’t know those girls were under aged”?

When the girls came back down complaining about the demands for sex it was even more obvious they were children and it was Kenny Smith who persuaded them not to go to the press with the mobile phone footage and promised them that Collett and Hannam would be disciplined by the party.
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Source.
 
DotCommunist said:
I had prepared a reasoned paragraph explaining why I disagree but the urge to tell you to fuck off overrode it:(

I mean really:( depressing.
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Explain it to me.... Am I not allowed my own views ?? Only allowed if they match your expectations ??? That goes for all of you.
 
Jayen4 said:
Explain it to me.... Am I not allowed my own views ?? Only allowed if they match your expectations ??? That goes for all of you.
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Of course you're allowed your own views. You might find your audience a bit less receptive than you'd hoped, but hey, that's life :)
 
Jayen4 said:
Explain it to me.... Am I not allowed my own views ?? Only allowed if they match your expectations ??? That goes for all of you.
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Of course you're allowed your views, just as we're allowed to find some of the sentiments you have expressed to be utterly vile.
 
Jayen4 said:
Explain it to me.... Am I not allowed my own views ?? Only allowed if they match your expectations ??? That goes for all of you.
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You are of course 'allowed' your own views. And others are allowed to tell you to fuck of for being an ignorant racist fuckwit, too.

The BNP believe that only people with white skin can be British. Do you agree with that?
 
Jayen4 said:
Explain it to me.... Am I not allowed my own views ?? Only allowed if they match your expectations ??? That goes for all of you.
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your post was a litany of lazy stereotypes that says more about your own prejudices than it does reality.

I mean, it's so simplistic and laden with assumptions I don't know where to start.
 
It's nothing about correct grammar, in fact the style of language you used is perfectly understandable. In more ways than one.
 
Sounds like the BNP is the party for you. If you want to put a slightly smaller shitty stain on your soul, join UKIP. At least they're not fucking fascists :(
 
El Jefe said:
course you are. And we're allowed to despise you for them.
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cesare said:
Of course you're allowed your own views. You might find your audience a bit less receptive than you'd hoped, but hey, that's life :)
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Nemo said:
Of course you're allowed your views, just as we're allowed to find some of the sentiments you have expressed to be utterly vile.
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littlebabyjesus said:
You are of course 'allowed' your own views. And others are allowed to tell you to fuck of for being an ignorant racist fuckwit, too.
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Monothought clique :mad:
 
Well your ramble tells me you don't like free speech, you don't people who share different value systems to you, and you don't like the idea of someone coming to the UK to try and make a better life for themselves (the comment about the Poles).

If I had the time, energy and inclination I'd happily take you through how while your argument about 'abiding by our laws' can be valid, your use of anecdotal evidence, and constant grouping of people based on their culture means it's likely to be more trouble than it's worth.

Let's take one point tho - Sharia law. Yes, some Muslims want Sharia law in the UK. Some people in the UK want to see something called the Universal Declaration of Human Rights universally applied around the world. The UDHR is essentially a creation of European thinking; it's premises of equality, and the body it was introduced by, are both the result of the political thinking and philosophy of men (mainly) in Europe, and the creation of the UN was mainly down to the victorious powers (US, UK, Russia) at the end of WW2. Many of the basic tenets of the UDHR directly contradict the interpretation some Muslims have of both Sharia and the hadiths that are part of the belief system of Islam.

Who is right? The thinking of Europeans from the period of our global imperialism, or the followers of a faith that spans the globe? Do you even agree with the UNDR? Do we have any kind of right to say that all nations, cultures and creeds adopt it as the basis for civil society. Do we have any more or less right to push for change in countries like Suadi Arabia or China via international diplomacy then the Muslim who wants Sharia in the UK?
 
Jayen4 said:
Explain it to me.... Am I not allowed my own views ?? Only allowed if they match your expectations ??? That goes for all of you.
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weeell....there's the long stream of idiotic, bigoted generalisations, the extracting from the bollocksspecific to the general, the assumption that all those who 'look' english - whatever that is - are utterly flawless in their active allegiance to the UK, the belief that that allegiance matters when you can be sure as fuck no boss cvlass chief says it...the ignorant, ill-informed about the WEU....yup, you're thick enough to be BNP
 
Crispy said:
Sounds like the BNP is the party for you. If you want to put a slightly smaller shitty stain on your soul, join UKIP. At least they're not fucking fascists :(
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While I have no time for UKIP -- embarrassing amateurs -- why are you mentioning them alongside the racial bigots of the BNP? :confused:
 
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