BNP Swansea meet and protest

[durruti02]

No it was a bit of satire. For a laugh I was imitating a BNP bloke posting propaganda in response to a post by Butchers Apron. I guess you've simply skipped your coffee this morning, I've done far worse.

ok

 

[durruti02]

paranoid or what! hypocritcial at least!

"Just to warn you this comment section has come to the attention of rentamob on a london based anarchist site which spends most of its time discussing the efficacy of stopping the BNP with their usual threats of political violence. So after the first flood of positive comments by local people you can discount a sudden surge of negative posts which will be from these London based twits with plenty of time on their hands encouraging each other to bump up the illusion of opposition to the BNP on here.
david jones, Cardiff "

 

[The Black Hand]

well it clearly HAS ( directly or indirectly ) resulted in something hasn't it attica??? the highest ever votes for the far right in this country ..

so it IS an issue ..

I was talking about twats bombarding a local rags bulletin board which in itself has not resulted in anything as far as I am aware.

Of course the BNP are an issue, unfortunately, they bore me rigid, there are so many beter better things to do than watch the BNP arseholes parade around.

 

[lewislewis]

The BNP are heavily working the net, I know a few different forums they use, I don't know what use it is though because most of the electorate don't read these websites (even local news ones). The amount of postings they do seems fairly time intensive, so I do wonder whether they are wasting resources when they could be out leafleting. In truth, i'd rather the anti-social types were neutralised and given an outlet on the internet than doing anything that people would actually read.

RedRumsBum makes a point above in that the BNP have picked up the British flag and claimed it for their own. They will never have the Welsh flag though. Indeed, we still fly it proudly as a banner not for insular racism but for a country where everyone can come and live. There is a massive white working class in South Wales, but the key point here is that most of them don't think they are 'British' at all. There is a potential for the BNP in Swansea for example, the conditions are there, but they aren't exactly on the verge of taking over the council. They will pick up a vote but most people in Swansea don't actually mind living in the same community as foreign people and working together with them. Alot of people in Swansea won't be convinced by the BNP's current 'pro-Wales' trip, and they'll see it as an imported ideology from England.

I am very concerned about the BNP in South Wales- they must be stopped- but we're still going to cane them in May in Swansea and elsewhere. The party that is succesful is going to be the party that sticks around after the elections are over, and in an increasing number of communities in Wales that party is not the BNP, Labour or anyone else, but is Plaid Cymru.

 

[ViolentPanda]

A number of those comments are clearly BNP trolls. It's part of their propaganda war.

Clear to you, clear to me, but clear to the Swansea electorate? I'd say possibly not. The nature of propaganda is that it's most often not recognised as propaganda until after it's purpose has been achieved, and fulminations on bulletin boards aren't likely to alter that. Only grass-roots engagement within Swansea can do that.

 

[audiotech]

Clear to you, clear to me, but clear to the Swansea electorate? I'd say possibly not. The nature of propaganda is that it's most often not recognised as propaganda until after it's purpose has been achieved, and fulminations on bulletin boards aren't likely to alter that. Only grass-roots engagement within Swansea can do that.

Tis true.

I would say that the comments section of any local newspaper on-line is being targeted by the BNP mainly to influence reporters, and importantly, editors of such newspapers. The idea being that BNP propaganda, presented as 'reasonable' and 'anti-extremist', will get them more space in the column inches of said papers. The BNP realised some time ago that 'kicking their way into the headlines didn't work.

It's only the crazed few who inhabit bulletin boards VP.

 

[niclas]

I am very concerned about the BNP in South Wales- they must be stopped- but we're still going to cane them in May in Swansea and elsewhere. The party that is succesful is going to be the party that sticks around after the elections are over, and in an increasing number of communities in Wales that party is not the BNP, Labour or anyone else, but is Plaid Cymru.

A concerted campaign by anti-fascists neutralised the North Wales BNP organiser (one John Oddy ) who was dominating the Welsh Daily Post bulletin boards. In the end, he started getting all sweary racist and got banned

LewisLewis is right about the threat posed by the BNP but because there is a credible radical left option to Labour in Wales, their threat is limited.

 

[The Black Hand]

That's good news about a N Wales BNP organiser being seen off.

 

[thelibrarian]

A concerted campaign by anti-fascists neutralised the North Wales BNP organiser (one John Oddy ) who was dominating the Welsh Daily Post bulletin boards. In the end, he started getting all sweary racist and got banned

LewisLewis is right about the threat posed by the BNP but because there is a credible radical left option to Labour in Wales, their threat is limited.

That's all very well as a tactic but what about the unpleasant effect that might cause for ethnic minorities who might use such boards?

 

[The Black Hand]

ahhhhhhhh!

Your leader has spoken.