BNP were 11 and 37 votes off getting 2 more councillors elected in Leeds
BNP seat in London Assembly - 1 in 20 voters voted BNP
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butchersapron
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_angel_
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Yep I saw those election results. 11 votes. Very close indeed.
I didn't even know the NF still existed in any serious sense, never mind as a political force
Fucking shambles.
They dont- their last National March attracted 27 people
To take and example, what about the BNP votes for Durham County Council - your back yard i think?
The Black Hand
Unclean
For Co Durhams new unitary authority there have been mixed results. They have done well in Chilton and Tudhoe, previous strongholds, but still no breakthrough in Co Durham. We are without fascists in govt here
Good. Crook South - their vote went up by 50 to 260 (Circa 23% improvement in their previous vote, but small overall %) in second yr standing - still nowhere near challenging for seat - but i haven't compared boundaries of wards which have been invented afresh for this new council structure.
They did poorly in Sedgefield - i do not know why. They tried to stand in Brandon and Willington for the first time using outsiders from Spennymoor. They did fairly poorly, i haven't worked out percentages but I suspect circa 10%, clearly they are looking to build their Spennymoor power base. Overall it was a mixed bag of results - 1st time not impressive, 3rd or 4th time standing a base but not too much, challenging in 2 seats with 2nd places. The battles are only just beginning, this will go on (unfortunately) for many years to come yet.
A worse problem is Kevan Jones MP - the worst sort of New Labour manipulator, he is trying to oust a former Miner as local Labour leader (and he will cos the old leader is not getting in again). There are 4 factions; Easington (Miners favourite, best of bunch IMHO), Derwentside, Chester le street (New Labour) and the old leader who is past it and hasn't got the capability to compete (his support has gone), and unfortunately New Labour look set to take it cos the left is too split, Jones is calling in some of Hilary Armstrong MP's accolytes (Wear Valley) to vote for him (obviously Nick Browns as well). Durham is one of the largest councils in the country.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Where's that from mA8?
The Black Hand
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Ironic
Lets hope the sitting MP's are fit and healthy
cos we don't need a by election...
Lets hope the sitting MP's are fit and healthy
cos we don't need a by election...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Sloppy.
What we have (and have had since circa the first "oil shock" in the early 1970s) is an ongoing erosion of the welfare state, we do not yet have a "workfare state" (unless you're employing a different definition of "workfare" than the normative one).
Your marketisation/privatisation point isn't fleshed out, in that privatisation of utilities etc arguably did not constitute privatisation of the state or it's apparatus, but privatisation of productive assets; a different thing altogether, and where marketisation is taking place, it's showing an ever-widening gap with the productive ability of the public sector, costing more for less.
We unfortunately have never enjoyed a universal welfare system, means-testing is at least a century older than the welfare state. Selectivism and the limiting of services have always been the watchword of the guardians of state funding.
We're not back in the 19th century with ideas about dangerous classes, they've been with us all the way through, they've merely been displaced from one group of people to another in the last century and a half.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
from an email I had through from a psephologist contact - think it's from as yet unpublished number-crunching.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ta, anything more like that please pass on.
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I've had a look at Leeds and get these results:
In 12 seats the BNP vote is static, hardly any change in the vote for the BNP.
In 10 seats their vote fell, most by 2/3 percent, one by 7 percent.
In 11 seats their vote increased marginally - 1/2 percent, the largest by 5.5 percent.
In 10 seats their overall vote is less than 5 percent.
In 6 seats between 5 and 10 percent'.
In 10 seats between 10 and 15 percent.
In 4 seats between 15 and 20 percent.
In two seats between 20 and 30 percent.
In one seat they got 37.5 percent of the vote.
The latter is almost exclusively white, as are the two others with 20 to 30 percent of the vote. These are areas on the outskirts of of the city.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
It's apparently the seat where Ed Balls is standing in the next GE.
The Black Hand
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There is one BNP councillor in Leeds, Chris Beverley, he has extensive links with the German neo-Nazi party, the National Democratic Party (NPD). Beverley is the BNP’s key link with the NPD. He acted as Nick Griffin’s translator when the BNP leader visited the NPD.
In February 2007 Beverley attended a gathering of the European National Front (ENF) in Reisa, Germany. The ENF brings together some of the most vicious, hard line, anti-Semitic Nazi organisations on the Continent. They include La Falange (Spain), Noua Dreapta (Romania), Forza Nuova (Italy), Nationale Alliantie (Holland), Nordiska Förbundet (Sweden) and the now defunct Renouvea Française (France).
Chris Beverly (also known as ‘Scarface') sent a letter threatening a Jewish Labour party candidate to a Morley newspaper, which was published. In the threat Chris Beverley wrote: "We know where you are..."
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
...exposed from you searchlight blurb already. How's that helped? Maybe it's stopped more getting elected in leeds eh?
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
Nor would I. He will have to be a mayor who governs for all and if the other parties in the assembly vote for his budget that will only leave the bnp screeching from the sidelines. Boris is going to have to reach out to minority voters the trick is if he can do this while still not losing the middle to upper white working classes. If he does this with funding policies that are relevant to all Londoners of whatever race or creed he could sideline the bnp without too much problem.
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According to articul8 post I was replying to, 'Leeds is now ahead of other parties in a race to elect an MP'. As Beverley is the sole councillor there do you honestly think that's likely?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's not likely at all, increased GE turnout will make sure of that. But the idea that exposing the BNP or bev will kill them is disproved by the votes this time around. Do you get it, or do you need Jim to explain it to you again?
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
I said that the BNP in the wards that make up that consituency did have a (slim) lead in votes actually cast over the other parties. If the same were to be repeated they would get an MP. Obviously, voter behaviour in GE's is not identical to local council elections. But it is still a sobering stat.
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Exposing the BNP's nazi links are an intrinsic part of any anti-fascist strategy. It might not kill them, but it certainly makes the softer elements of the BNP squirm.
_angel_
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Morley have been fielding independents as a response to the bnp candidate, I notice, to try and unseat the bnp.
audiotech
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With no relevance to a general election it's an absurd calculation.
butchersapron
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
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Personally i think it is funny how the left use white indiginous when talking about bnp voters but intellectually deny that such a thing is possible which is no to say there is not some truth in this idea but wtf wheres my nit comb
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
I keep asking you, if being labelled fascist is so politically inconsequential, why do bnp deny being fascist?
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