bnp membership list redux

[DotCommunist]

traditional for the fash to have some support amongst the aristos ennit

 

[e19896]

who is he then? cant be arsed to look

You mean this?

http://88.80.16.63/leak/bnp-2009/bnp-2009.htm

More info at: http://twitter.com/wikileaks

Hee hee i love the internet..

 

[Pickman's model]

oh, it seems I can be arsed!

Lord Bramall, proper peer in the Lords!

former head of the armed forces

 

[Pickman's model]

Hee hee i love the internet..

lucky you

 

[Pickman's model]

traditional for the fash to have some support amongst the aristos ennit

he's a life peer, not an aristo - not hereditary, see?

 

[DotCommunist]

oh. Well, still a cunt twice over.

 

[lewislewis]

is that a normal m/f spread for political party?

Definitely not!

 

[belboid]

former head of the armed forces

who decked notable holocaust campaigner lord janner a couple of years back too.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

few names already being banded about as to who did it, but dont really care who was responsible

it is self evident this does them harm and that should be the only concern we have- fascists will be quaking in their boots this morning

i just cant see griffin riding this one out- and along with bans in the public sector and hopefully a ban on their existence over their illegal constitution
i think they won't survive this.

Jim where is the evidence that:

1. There will be public sector bans beyond those that already exist.

2. They will not be able to bring their constitution in line with legal requirements.

3. Previous leaks did them any harm.

It seems very odd that you should indulge in what appears to be such wishful thinking.

Louis MacNeice

 

[e19896]

lucky you

Yes ponder the work of people who have taken risk to bring this to morons like you, instead of just being a wanker do something for a change, well done to those who have leeked this and taken risk.

 

[Jonti]

Seems like the thuggish "Lord" Bramhall has wandered into the wilderness of political irrelevance and oblivion ...

... far right groups are fundamentally at odds with the values of the British military. We call on all those who seek to hijack the good name of Britain's military for their own advantage to cease and desist.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes ponder the work of people who have taken risk to bring this to morons like you, instead of just being a wanker do something for a change, well done to those who have leeked this and taken risk.

what, you mean people like matt single and sadie graham?

 

[Pickman's model]

who decked notable holocaust campaigner lord janner a couple of years back too.

is this janner pro or anti?

 

[Rod Sleeves]

The "Lord Bramhall" is most certainly NOT Lord Edwin Bramall, who is a Field Marshall, sitting peer, Knight of the Garter and many other illustrious things.
The Lord Bramhall (notice the slightly different spelling) is on the BNP membership list registered to postcode ST1 4RB (which is in Stoke on Trent, believed to be a retirement home).
If you conduct a series of searches, you can find this
http://www.bramhall.talktalk.net/bramhall.ged
This is an ASCII version of a webpage which mentions "Lord Brian Bramhall" - not really a Lord, but he styles himself as the 10th Earl of Newbury. Lines 37 and 38 of that link give you both the name "Lord Brian Bramhall" and his postcode "ST1 4RB"
The webpage is his own, which he uses to trace genealogy of his family: http://www.bramhall.talktalk.net/
IMPORTANT WE SQUASH THIS RUMOUR FAST - THERE IS NO PEER IN THE BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY - ESP. NOT LORD EDWIN BRAMALL

Looks like the Lord Bramhall listed is a random nutter, anyone can actually call themselves a lord...

Janner used to be on the Board of Jewish Deputies by the way.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

I see their list is less specific now. No jobs, only surnames and no full addresses.

 

[invisibleplanet]

Wonders why there's no banging head on wall smiley......

There is one towards the end of the smiley thread
Uploaded one for you below

 

[Pickman's model]

I see their list is less specific now. No jobs, only surnames and no full addresses.

yeh but most people are only going to be using it to check the old list anyway

 

[durruti02]

few names already being banded about as to who did it, but dont really care who was responsible

it is self evident this does them harm and that should be the only concern we have- fascists will be quaking in their boots this morning

i just cant see griffin riding this one out- and along with bans in the public sector and hopefully a ban on their existence over their illegal constitution
i think they won't survive this.

but they totally overcame the previous leak and their membership continues to increase so your point makes no sense ..

this is yet another desperate futile attempt to sidestep the absolute, fundamental fact that IF you want change, IF you want inclusive communities, IF you want a better world, IF you want to destroy the BNP, there are no short cuts ( leak lists, bbc bans etc), you actually have to go and do the dirty work of creating those things where you live and work

 

[butchersapron]

few names already being banded about as to who did it, but dont really care who was responsible

it is self evident this does them harm and that should be the only concern we have- fascists will be quaking in their boots this morning

i just cant see griffin riding this one out- and along with bans in the public sector and hopefully a ban on their existence over their illegal constitution
i think they won't survive this.

The BNPs 6 month average in local elections before the last leak was 12.3%, after it was 21.3 (until the june elections this year roughly). I'm not saying that it went up as a result of the original leak, but it surely didn't harm them - not electorally anyway. It would be terrible for you of all people to fall back on the tried and trusted 'it would have been even worse otherwise' line to argue that it did harm them and so this time will as well.

 

[DotCommunist]

 

[Fedayn]

 

[butchersapron]

There'll be a BNP exposed type story in the major media every day this week i think.

 

[Fedayn]

There'll be a BNP exposed type story in the major media every day this week i think.

FFS, it'll be a liberals wet dream every day of the week.

 

[butchersapron]

If this Guardian summary is accurate, this

membership is growing fastest in places such as Wiltshire and East Sussex, outside the party's traditional heartlands.

is not good.

 

[belboid]

mmm, large pinch of salt should be taken with such statements. If starting from an incredibly low base (as is quite plausible) it would only take a couple of new members to show a massive percentage growth.

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, will have a proper look later today. The wilthsire lot have been very busy the last year though, i know that.

 

[durruti02]

that's brilliant!

 

[stethoscope]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/20/bnp-membership-list-analysis

The list does not show as many members as the BNP claims to have. Darby said membership had grown recently, partly as a result of anger at the MPs' expenses scandal, and has now reached around 14,000. But the data seen by the Guardian, which appears to be a snapshot at the end of April 2009, shows 11,811 members. It is not clear if it is comprehensive and when the list of the BNP's membership at the end of 2007 list was leaked in November 2008, it showed 12,802 names. Some of those were not full members and had only showed an interest in the party.

 

[butchersapron]

That's just wrong - the expenses scandal blew up on from the 8th May onwards. How could figures from April show membership increases from May and after?

 

[Pickman's model]

there's some double counting in it - for example, nick barfoot, the islington organiser, appears on the list twice as does at least one other name from (london) n1.