BNP by elections defeat

[Groucho]

I think the BNP expected to take Grays or at least come a close second.....

I think they expected to take it. They put a hell of a lot of work in and mobilised across London and the East region. A fair number of their core supporters think elections are a waste of time.

 

[LLETSA]

Um... eh?

Sssh: there's a member of the BNP talking....

 

[andy2002]

Sssh: there's a member of the BNP talking....

I really, really hope that isn't directed at me, mate.

 

[audiotech]

Trite reply incoming.

 

[LLETSA]

There you are, dog lover

I really, really hope that isn't directed at me, mate.

Sigh. No it isn't.

 

[Joe Reilly]

I think they expected to take it. They put a hell of a lot of work in and mobilised across London and the East region. A fair number of their core supporters think elections are a waste of time.

Thats just pure Searchlite/gobshite self-justifying wannabe analysis. Tell it to the trots. Maybe the BNP did, mobilise across London, maybe they didn't so did the mainstream parties.
What is also true is that the BNP are fully aware, (Griffin has even admitted as much) his party can not expect to win any by-elections anywhere as long as there is a mainstream pact to stop them doing so.

 

[Groucho]

Thats just pure Searchlite/gobshite self-justifying wannabe analysis. Tell it to the trots. Maybe the BNP did, mobilise across London, maybe they didn't so did the mainstream parties.
What is also true is that the BNP are fully aware, (Griffin has even admitted as much) his party can not expect to win any by-elections anywhere as long as there is a mainstream pact to stop them doing so.

The establishment parties did not mobilise significant forces and leafletted less than the BNP. Saw teams of BNP canassers but no others, apart from our UAF teams.

How exactly did this 'mainstream pact' operate in Thurrock then?

 

[JimPage]

Cripes!
the area.

All the evidence shows that UAF leafletting helps undermine the BNP electorally. Obviously the need for a genuine alternative to the mainstream parties is pressing. Possible Respect meeting in Thurrock in the new year.

what evidence? the best you can do- as your chums at searchligth will say- is to undermine their support by 3-5%

the bnp vote went down by about 1.5% here, the turnout went down. what do you propose in May 2006 when they are satdning 300 plus canddiates?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

As it happens...

the likely jailing of Griffin/Collett & the consequent organisational fragmentation (as well as some hefty unpaid bills I hear ) may well mean the BNP doesn't stand that many canidates. But as regards the debate here between realists who don't underestimate the BNP threat, & facile Searchlight dupes who believe anything they're told but understand nothing--well my position on this debate is already known.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Re Goresbrook, of course it helped that the LD's backed the most likely anti BNP candidate but they were aided by the fact that the BNP councillor was a total fuckwit who didn't attend council meetings as they 'went right over his head'

If they had put in some one like Rustem first off they may have made a 'positive' impression on voters and there may not have been the need for a byelection in the frst place.

I think that Rustems 'non Anglo' background probably played badly with the bnp organisers in that ward and by the time they stood rustem in the ward the damage to their organisation was done in that ward.

It ill behoves the trot left to pat themselves on the back over their activities in Dagenham by claiming own goals by the bnp as some sort of victory.

 

[JimPage]

the likely jailing of Griffin/Collett & the consequent organisational fragmentation (as well as some hefty unpaid bills I hear ) may well mean the BNP doesn't stand that many canidates. .

they have announced full slates in birmingham and bradford, and a candidate in every ward in barking so far, so by my reckoning they are well on the way to 300 plus already.

i cant see the bnp fragmeneting, or griffin even being found guilty for that matter (collett is anothe matter)