I thought if you committed a murder together you had to be tried together? If he didn't do it and was just connected, £20,000 seems like a big reward.
Bloody hell!
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I thought if you committed a murder together you had to be tried together? If he didn't do it and was just connected, £20,000 seems like a big reward.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Not necessarily, I don't think but i'm not sure. I think we could do with D-B's knowledge here...I'll PM him.
£20,000 (which will be from public funds for a murder case) suggests (a) they're pretty sure it's him they want and (b) they're pretty sure he's an out and out danger and they need to get hold of him a.s.a.p.
As for trial, that is a long, long way away. If several people are jointly charged with a murder then the normal procedure would be for them to be tried together ... but if one is in custody and the other still missing you can't hold on for ever before getting on with the first trial (nowadays you'd hardy be able to delay at all unless there were some live enquiries very likely to trace the missing one(s)).
There is no requirement for them to be tried together, it is just that it is usually the most sensible way of going about it.
If some defendants have an issue with being tried with others they can seek a Court direction that the trials be split - this may well be the case where there is some sort of conflict between the two although the Courts try their best not to let this happen if they can avoid it ... as you then get two trials where the individual defendant gives evidence blaming the other and you end up with both juries believing their shite and acquitting both.
(This happened in the case of the murder of the guy in the Rastafarian Tabenacle that I dealt with 10 years ago - we arrested both principle suspects (two brothers) who each blamed each other and although we managed to start the trial together despite their repeated applications for a split, that couldn't be maintained and it was split part-way through - result was both were acquitted of murder (on the basis that the other one did it) and both were convicted of possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life and got something like 6 years and a deportation order (which means they are both probably happily wandering around London again by now ...
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As for trial, that is a long, long way away. If several people are jointly charged with a murder then the normal procedure would be for them to be tried together ... but if one is in custody and the other still missing you can't hold on for ever before getting on with the first trial (nowadays you'd hardy be able to delay at all unless there were some live enquiries very likely to trace the missing one(s)).
There is no requirement for them to be tried together, it is just that it is usually the most sensible way of going about it.
If some defendants have an issue with being tried with others they can seek a Court direction that the trials be split - this may well be the case where there is some sort of conflict between the two although the Courts try their best not to let this happen if they can avoid it ... as you then get two trials where the individual defendant gives evidence blaming the other and you end up with both juries believing their shite and acquitting both.
(This happened in the case of the murder of the guy in the Rastafarian Tabenacle that I dealt with 10 years ago - we arrested both principle suspects (two brothers) who each blamed each other and although we managed to start the trial together despite their repeated applications for a split, that couldn't be maintained and it was split part-way through - result was both were acquitted of murder (on the basis that the other one did it) and both were convicted of possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life and got something like 6 years and a deportation order (which means they are both probably happily wandering around London again by now ...
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Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
The fact that several of us have had scary non-provoked aggression from him certainly shows he has, at the very least, anger management issues
billythefish
toad licker
He looks familiar to me too - seen him around the Brixton Water Lane area of the Hill.
One of my housemates was punched in the head a few months ago at a bus stop around here during the middle of the morning, but he swears it was not this guy... the one who punched him was under six foot and had no beard.
One of my housemates was punched in the head a few months ago at a bus stop around here during the middle of the morning, but he swears it was not this guy... the one who punched him was under six foot and had no beard.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
billythefish
toad licker
True - although I never saw evidence that he was drunk - just very angry with the world.
He also used to sit on a doorstep in Josephine Avenue and hurl abuse to anyone who made eye contact with him... not a nice man...
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
No, I've never noticed him drunk, but I'm sure he had a shuffle or a funny walk or a very slow meandering walk, rather than strolling with a purpose type of walk
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Perhaps it was the same guy, stopping and shaved?
I think he's targeting urbanites and their friends!
billythefish
toad licker
Pat24
Brixtonian
a few years ago, i got off the bus at brixton police station and a guy, who resembles the one mentioned, started punching me on my chest and would not letting me go. I managed to get away and he tried to do the same to a lady who had also got off the bus with me and she walked the opposite way. I don't know if he's the same bloke, but the one who did this to me was clearly a disturbed/mentally unstable. There are so many loonies walking about in this place!!
AKA pseudonym
Well-Known Member
pity nobody has spotted him recently
20k hey....
not trying to take away from the gravity of the situation and the effect it had on u Mrs. M
20k hey....
not trying to take away from the gravity of the situation and the effect it had on u Mrs. M
