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Max's ego makes me sick. I don't like being insulted like that by a child trying to suck up to the only person on here apart from you who might consider his Mysticism For Dummies schtick anything other than the soft-headed nonsense it is.

so the logic behind it, isnt logic at all? just soft-headed feelings of sickness, thats what im hearing. why does max make you feel sick inside yourself?
 
so the logic behind it, isnt logic at all? just soft-headed feelings of sickness, thats what im hearing. why does max make you feel sick inside yourself?

What are you, my therapist?

He makes me angry because not only is he generally incorrect (which is in itself not a crime) but arrogant. He believes that everyone else is the problem but not him. He thinks like a New Labour politician, mistaking feelings for facts, prejudices for rationale, and nonsense for sense. Plus he insults everyone he disagrees with whilst acting like others start the fight. Clearly he honestly believes that everyone around here really are intellectual pygmies. If being opposed to such arrogance and unpleasantness is soft-headed to you, then you;re just as bad as he is. Probably worse. At least he's skim-read the stuff he pretends to understand and critique, you just follow him around like a lap-dog in order to try and defend him from the nasty critics using the sort of mind-games and i-know-you-are-what-am-i toss that most people grow out of at puberty.
 
What are you, my therapist?

He makes me angry because not only is he generally incorrect (which is in itself not a crime) but arrogant. He believes that everyone else is the problem but not him. He thinks like a New Labour politician, mistaking feelings for facts, prejudices for rationale, and nonsense for sense. Plus he insults everyone he disagrees with whilst acting like others start the fight. Clearly he honestly believes that everyone around here really are intellectual pygmies. If being opposed to such arrogance and unpleasantness is soft-headed to you, then you;re just as bad as he is. Probably worse. At least he's skim-read the stuff he pretends to understand and critique, you just follow him around like a lap-dog in order to try and defend him from the nasty critics using the sort of mind-games and i-know-you-are-what-am-i toss that most people grow out of at puberty.

Good post dude. To write that, you've lived it. Cut max some slack. :)
 
at least be honest, i never do this (certainly not in philosophy forum anyway) whereas your posts are filled with insults directed at me

it is called philosophy forum, but dont expect to get much philosophical debate on here, it's like pulling teeth from a rhinocerous

but to be honest, the best you get from urban is normally mindless, pathetic arguments from weak-souled people :(

you have to be SO patient, and wade through heaps of bullshit, before that ever happens here

Intellectual honesty is very important max, I agree. Protip: mistaking fact and opinion is a common error.
 
i am completely honest, i never insult anyone, none of those quotes you made were directed at anyone specific

That's quite seriously dishonest. Do you not think that by insulting everyone, you are in fact insulting anyone?

No, probably not.
 
What are you, my therapist?

He makes me angry because not only is he generally incorrect (which is in itself not a crime) but arrogant. He believes that everyone else is the problem but not him. He thinks like a New Labour politician, mistaking feelings for facts, prejudices for rationale, and nonsense for sense. Plus he insults everyone he disagrees with whilst acting like others start the fight. Clearly he honestly believes that everyone around here really are intellectual pygmies. If being opposed to such arrogance and unpleasantness is soft-headed to you, then you;re just as bad as he is. Probably worse. At least he's skim-read the stuff he pretends to understand and critique, you just follow him around like a lap-dog in order to try and defend him from the nasty critics using the sort of mind-games and i-know-you-are-what-am-i toss that most people grow out of at puberty.

yes you just believe that, and your ego will be perfectly safe. after all you know hes wrong, and your right. its as simple as that. the mystery doesnt bother you because logic rules. but it never quite works out..

im just saying that the very reason you are opposed to max, is because you are a soft headed emotional creature. we all are. you are just denying your own spirit the room to breathe, by claiming that this logical reaction has a foundation other than your heart.

i dont think the critics are nasty. its just a natural reaction to your entire world view being threatened. no world model is absolute, but it feels healthier to embrace paradox rather than trying to ignore it.
 
That's quite seriously dishonest. Do you not think that by insulting everyone, you are in fact insulting anyone?

No, probably not.



i wasnt insulting anyone, i was making an entirely honest and accurate judgement about the quality of philosophical discussion on this forum

i certainky wasnt insulting everyone, because there are quite a few people on here who like to be philosophical
 
its just a natural reaction to your entire world view being threatened. no world model is absolute, but it feels healthier to embrace paradox rather than trying to ignore it.


Absolutely, Heidegger observed in the existential analysis of Dasein (being-there) that this being is constantly running away from itself
 
... Included on this forum are dozens of people with philosophy degrees, masters and even a few phds. even more people who are very well read and capable debaters, plenty more self-educated intelligent human beings. If you had the slightest philosophical bone in your body apart you'd realise that your ego and refusal to apply logic, the scientific method, linear though or occam's razor are the reason why it's constantly you battling to make your piss poor incoherences understood. having everyone hate you is NOT the same as being an outstanding thinker, you know.
I think that's rather well said myself.

It's just a description of how a person who *really* can't tell the difference between the subjective and the real comes over. A sound and reasoned description.
 
I think that's rather well said myself.

It's just a description of how a person who *really* can't tell the difference between the subjective and the real comes over. A sound and reasoned description.


what is the subjective between the subjective and the real?

is the subjective unreal?
 
my worldview isn't being threatened you daft apeth. i LIKE my worldview being threatened, one of the best things that urban has done for me is that there are people on here who have constantly challenged my worldview and taught me that subjectivity influences how you see the world. if max genuinely challenged my worldview i wouldn't have a problem with his philosophy, because you can learn stuff from people who are wrong and who you disagree with. if nothing else you learn to appreciate the rightness of your viewpoint and be given food for thought. max doesn't challenge me, he offends me by the way he operates. same as you, the apir of you are intellectually dishonest and for all you cry about subjectivity neither of you are willing to learn from others or have your own worldview challenged. you hide behind your bullshit subjectivity cloak but are only subjective when it gives you the chance to pretend you're intellectually superior. whenever anyone does challenge you piss around with childish "i'm rubber you're glue". it's anti-philosophy, it's entrenched positions, it's toss.

And that is my final word on the matter. Feel free to try some more of that pseudo-psychiatric bollocks, knock yourself out. I've had enough therapy over the years to be able to tell the difference between a useful contribution into my mental health and understanding of my own feelings, and an attempt to poison the well during one of your intellectual showboating attempts by suggesting that my dislike of your games is some sort of denial.
 
Could you mention my name, I feel a visit coming on. bodach. :)



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what is the subjective between the subjective and the real?
is the subjective unreal?

Wrong questions.

It should be: Why do you take the real for real while your reality is inevitably subjective and because of this, but not solely because of it, the subjective itself is inevitably unreal.

salaam.
 
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