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Bleep43, Corsica Studios, Dec 5th, Surgeon/DJ Pete/Scorn

that went completely and utterly over my head. For some geezer what was in fucking Napalm Death that was the dullest dubstep i ever heard and i was really looking forward to that, and for some chap who is probably the best known techno DJ in the UK i dunno, just nothing. I could kind of dance.

I left the club feeling a bit dazed and confused. Maybe people are correct and what i like really *isn't* techno, cos that night made very little sense to me. Can anyone link me to a set of surgeon's so i can see if maybe i was just in a funny mood? I'm pretty certain about scorn tho, the dubstep i like could make me dance like a cunt even if i'd had no arms and legs with seconds to live. Something was not right there.

ETA absolutely no offence meant to Left Turn Clyde, you've clearly put on exactly the right night for what you aim for - everyone was lovonjg it and it was rammed with people, well done :) I'm happy to admit i'm the odd one out here.
 
:) Horses courses!
BTW you seem to imply that I put the night on - not me, Bleep43 did it. I was just helping out on the door. :)
 
You're not the odd one out, Tax, I felt the same and was frankly a bit bored so went home early. I really wanted to like it and there was a nice atmosphere, but it just wasn't doing it for me.

I'm not a techno anorak - perhaps I should mug up on my sub-genres so I can figure out what exactly it is that I like.
 
You're not the odd one out, Tax, I felt the same and was frankly a bit bored so went home early. I really wanted to like it and there was a nice atmosphere, but it just wasn't doing it for me.

Cheers ruby, thats exaclty how i felt and what i did. I saw you BTW but had forgotten your name :D

I'm not a techno anorak - perhaps I should mug up on my sub-genres so I can figure out what exactly it is that I like.
I am personally a techno fan, but me a LTC have very different flavours, and we already knew that. BTW i 100% guarantee that if you have techno bone in your body, and even if you don't, you will enjoy louise+1 or Jerome Hill playing. If you see them at one of my benefit nights and don't like them, i will refund you :)
 
i don't really get it, every time i pay peanuts to see my mates techno nights i have an absolutely brilliant time with 10 other people on the dance floor. Every time i pay proper money to see popular big name techno DJs, i am floored by how uninterested i am by it. I've seen Jeff Mills 3 times and been bored every time.

I really reject that its an 'inteligent versus dancefloor' thing either, i don't find it cleverer music, just less going on, slower, less driving and a bit sparse and with more dated samples.
 
Cheers ruby, thats exaclty how i felt and what i did. I saw you BTW but had forgotten your name :D


I am personally a techno fan, but me a LTC have very different flavours, and we already knew that. BTW i 100% guarantee that if you have techno bone in your body, and even if you don't, you will enjoy louise+1 or Jerome Hill playing. If you see them at one of my benefit nights and don't like them, i will refund you :)
I didn't say I wasn't a techno fan, I love techno, I said I'm not a techno anorak. In fact I prefer techno to anything else on a night out - the darker and more abstract the better. I just never know what I'm listening to or who's changing the records :p let alone what subgenre it is.

And you should have come and said hello, you bastard. I think the last time I saw you was at that mega squat party of doom at London Bridge about 3 years ago that was like one of the circles of hell...
 
I didn't say I wasn't a techno fan, I love techno, I said I'm not a techno anorak. In fact I prefer techno to anything else on a night out - the darker and more abstract the better. I just never know what I'm listening to or who's changing the records :p let alone what subgenre it is.

And you should have come and said hello, you bastard. I think the last time I saw you was at that mega squat party of doom at London Bridge about 3 years ago that was like one of the circles of hell...

yeah, i got robbed by some kids with flick knives. Flick knives in england, wtf.
 
I had a good night despite the music being almost entirely complete wank. I thought I'd wandered into some sort of art installation project/experiment at first.

:)
 
I had a good night despite the music being almost entirely complete wank. I thought I'd wandered into some sort of art installation project/experiment at first.

:)

I thought the music in the other room was a lot better - easier to dance to anyway:D
 
One of the reasons I love Surgeon (and it's the same with Optimo) is that he's not some kind of year zero 1988 dance gimp - he's got a broad love for music and he lets it show and he's willing to take chances.

Really wish I'd been there
 
is that a bad thing then?

depends when you're born, but i can't abide people who suddenly 'saw the light' in 1988 and have no interest in anything outside dance music, as if they'd never listened to anything before.

People with broader interests have more to bring to the dance music they make, IMO
 
One of the reasons I love Surgeon (and it's the same with Optimo) is that he's not some kind of year zero 1988 dance gimp - he's got a broad love for music and he lets it show and he's willing to take chances.

Really wish I'd been there

You heard the recent Bleep43 podcast with Surgeon?
http://www.bleep43.com/podcast/2008/11/24/podcast-117-surgeon.html
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————-SURGEON MIX————-
Coil - Amethyst deceivers

Coil’s music has, since I first discovered them in about 1996, always had a deep and spiritual meaning for me. Listening to Amethyst Deceivers at the summit of Mauna Kea in Hawaii as the sun was setting is the most beautifully moving, yet sad thing I have experienced.

Psychic TV - Always is always

The album ‘Dreams Less Sweet’ by Psychic TV was recorded using the Zuccarelli Holophonic system, which produced amazing 3D sound imaging with only stereo headphone playback.

Here, you can really feel the solo vocalist walk around as they sing Charles Manson’s ‘Always is always’.


Hashim - Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)

This is the defining Electro track for my youth. When I first heard it in about 1983 it blew me away, I knew at once that this was the music I had been searching for. It just sounded so alien and powerful.

Suicide - Che

Suicide are a big influence for me, simple, dark, psychedelic mantras. This track is often overshadowed by Rocket USA, Frankie Teardrop etc, but it builds to an amazing energy.

Faust - Chromatic

I love the anarchy of Faust, their songs are so varied. I remember introducing a friend to them by playing him their ‘71 Minutes of’ album. Afterwards he commented that listening to it had been like a mental assault course. Chromatic is like a musical puzzle that goes on forever.

Coil - Dark River

Whenever I listen to “Dark River”, it reminds of this time my friends and I went out to this bridge over a river. The moon was out, and the sky was totally clear. We put these candles on boats made of newspaper and set them adrift in the river. The “boats” all blew off to one bank of the river and sat there in the grass on the bank. It looked like the bridge was several hundred miles above the water, and the boats were little houses, with light coming from fires in their fireplaces. It was quite beautiful, but also very sad for some reason…That song is inexorably tied to that memory for me.

The Walker Brothers - The Electrician

Possibly the greatest song ever? From the ultimate darkness and despair to pure ecstasy in one song (and back again). A most beautiful and strange song.

Whitehouse - Neronia

William Bennett’s approach to his art is a great inspiration for me. Neronia is a lesser know piece from the early 90s produced with Steve Albini. Perfect use of frequencies and tension.

Psychic TV - Clouds without water

Another track from the amazing ‘Dreams Less Sweet’ album. Brings to mind minimalist classical composers. Beautiful.

Tomita - Clair de Lune (Suite Bergamasque, No. 3)

This was possibly the first piece of electronic music that I ever heard. I was about 4 years old and remember being fascinated by the rich and varied, almost cartoon like sounds. Each sound has such a different size, shape, texture and temperature.

The Beatles - A Day In The Life

Another contender for greatest song ever. I have always felt as if there was some kind of awesome power lurking beneath the surface of this song, like getting the briefest glimpse of something from the corner of your eye. It is somehow linked to (my?) death, but not in any kind of depressing way. Difficult to explain. I want this to be played at my funeral."

Maybe you won't like the last track :p
 
I've seen Jeff Mills 3 times and been bored every time.

i've seen him a lot more times than that, but equally found him boring. every time i think "that was shit. he must have had an off night - or his record box got lost at the airport" and go again. but every time - dull. dull. dull.

jeff mills plays VERY. BORING. MUSIC.

robert hood MAKES even duller music but at least he plays good tracks when he's DJing.
 
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