Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Blair Out -Orange Revolution Mayday

laptop said:
Anyway, that aside, they're a different colour in each country. And quite a lot of colours have been used up :(

I know - let's make it really English.

A beige revolution! :D

(Or is that taupe?)
Click to expand...

If you have to shit in a bucket I reckon it'll be more a Brown Revolution...
 
laptop said:
Anyway, that aside, they're a different colour in each country. And quite a lot of colours have been used up :(

I know - let's make it really English.

A beige revolution! :D

(Or is that taupe?)
Click to expand...
:D

What do we want? A different leader! When do we want it? Gradually!
 
Leader

theres a lot of difference between Blair going at a time of his own choosing - probably October 2007 - and being forced out in May by People Power.The relevant fact is not Brown's accession but the return of th punters to centre stage.
 
2767_small.jpg
Im all for an orange revolition as long as we can get Julia along
 
AnnO'Neemus said:
Why wait till mayday?

Why not 5 November, everyone wearing masks like in V for Vendetta?

That film made me want to buy a truckfull of masks and distribute them! :D
Click to expand...


Hey, lets do November 5th as a trial run;) and if we can't get enough people out then, there's always the 'big one' on Mayday 2007...:D
 
Well, I was an optimistic idealist, and then I went on that march and had my naive dreams shattered into loads of little bits, so 'scuse me for being bitter :p
 
Crispy said:
Well, I was an optimistic idealist, and then I went on that march and had my naive dreams shattered into loads of little bits, so 'scuse me for being bitter :p
Click to expand...

So i was right - you are a negative defeatist.

But don't worry, there's many of them inhabiting so-called revolutionary groups, who do nothing but talk about - you guessed it - doing nothing...

Instead they fester in conservative routines:eek: :D - they, when accused like this say, 'but we are doing something' like the clones that used (or still can) be found in the SWP. But the point is that what they are doing IS conservative, predicatable, and a waste of time...
 
Fair do's. I don't even pretend to do anything, so your attacks are wasted on me :)

I'll be well up for any sort of plan that has a hope of working, but this one doesn't stand a chance unless you mobilise millions of people for months, and unfortunately they're all too materially contented to give a fuck.
 
cholmondley said:
Fed up with useless marching to Hyde ParK?
Mayday 2007 - Bring the Orange revolution home. Gather Downing Street - or nearest - 6pm and STAY there till Blair goes.
Click to expand...

Don't forget that on 23 September the new Labour conference is going to be surrounded by anti-war protesters. Once surrounded what's to stop us staying there until Blair goes? :) I mean no need to let him out is there...
 
AnnO'Neemus said:
Why wait till mayday?

Why not 5 November, everyone wearing masks like in V for Vendetta?

That film made me want to buy a truckfull of masks and distribute them! :D
Click to expand...

TOP ONE NICE ONE SORTED

altern8.jpg
 
i think this is an interesting idea .. i think the CA should have done it as should the big anti war demo .. the state is quite capable of dealing with with london being disrupted for a few hours .. but not for any longer ..

i think the manchester idea is maybe too late ..

i think May gives enough time to get the buzz out there .. and it should include all those against blair ..

to those who say it is just about a change of leader they miss the point that ideas can change significantly in periods of change/changeover
 
Trouble is, that 2 million was made up of 'normal' people - people with jobs, kids, houses etc. They cared enough to come to London for one day, but they didn't care enough to come back for the marches that followed. I don't think they cared enough to leave their lives behind for a month. I think they care even less now, seeing how little effect they had.
 
stop the cynicism, i think its a goer:, a bourgois protest just like 2003 may just work, however, unlike Groucho, the SWP and their anti-war one trick pony , i would like to see other issues raised, such as the massive inequality developing in the u.K


btw, julia is certainly a 'goer' bit like this lady: julia bonk, german PDS MP

20051220juliabonk_tv.jpg
 
Crispy said:
Trouble is, that 2 million was made up of 'normal' people - people with jobs, kids, houses etc. They cared enough to come to London for one day, but they didn't care enough to come back for the marches that followed. I don't think they cared enough to leave their lives behind for a month. I think they care even less now, seeing how little effect they had.
Click to expand...
On the other hand, they might just think enough is enough, and be prepared to force Blair out.

Dunno. I'm less pessimistic than you are. Maybe it could work.
 
she may be corrupt and she may have lined her own pockets , but she could lead my revolution any day

etc
 
treelover said:
I wondered when such a group would make an appearance, shame the film flopped and not many will know who you are:(
Click to expand...

I can't find anything on the net.

Reminds me of when people started calling themselves 'NEO' or 'MORPHEUS' online ;)
 
The more i think about it the more it seems a good idea, it would certainly highlight our democratic deficit where NL got elected with 26% of the vote, its also the sort of thing the english love, just read CIF comments about democracy in the uk, the posters are going ballistic.
 
Jonti said:
On the other hand, they might just think enough is enough, and be prepared to force Blair out.

Dunno. I'm less pessimistic than you are. Maybe it could work.
Click to expand...
Hmm.

Maybe a small group of protestors with no connection to any kind of ongoing struggle could force Blair out by standing outside "until he goes". Maybe. But what does it matter if all we're going to do is replace him with somebody identical but a bit nicer?

People might think I'm pessimistic for the sake of it, I'm not. This is the worst kind of substitutionist stuntism and the most any of you are going to achieve is getting nicked.

There again, I could be wrong. If Blair gets replaced by Brown because of this tiny protest and Brown suddenly decides to usher in a new age of peace and equality, I suppose I'll just have to eat my words.
 
In Bloom said:
Hmm.

Maybe a small group of protestors with no connection to any kind of ongoing struggle could force Blair out by standing outside "until he goes". Maybe. But what does it matter if all we're going to do is replace him with somebody identical but a bit nicer?

People might think I'm pessimistic for the sake of it, I'm not. This is the worst kind of substitutionist stuntism and the most any of you are going to achieve is getting nicked.

There again, I could be wrong. If Blair gets replaced by Brown because of this tiny protest and Brown suddenly decides to usher in a new age of peace and equality, I suppose I'll just have to eat my words.
Click to expand...

Your logic is all negative, i've put all the negative thoughts above in italics.

If you start wrong, you end wrong;) The point is that we could encourage a new cycle of struggle, through solidarity, through linking struggles, and encouraging unity through this idea which could unite people in practice across ideological lines, across party lines, by building on the popular antipathy to Blair. Now, when it comes to crunch, new possibilities may arise which are simply unpredictable. You want to opt out of even trying, you go do that, but don't sabotage struggles by spreading your angst. The point is to try and spread struggles with potential most effectively, and in the absence of alternatives, it is the best we have got...
 
Thanks for the laugh. Another completely loony idea from the far-left's bonkers brigades. "Form a crowd, get a response!". Heheh, cheers all =)
 
The principle here is very simple - it is the principle of "one no, many yes's".

If all those who say no to New Labour come together for one carefully targeted day - signalled by a sign such as a song played on the radio - then change can and will happen.

After that 'no' we can get on with arguing, or agreeing, about the many 'yes's'.

Instead of arguing about its possibility, why don't we work out where we are going to be and what we are going to do?

V for Vindication. V for Velvet. V for Velour. V for Vicissitudes. V for Vanquish!

V for Victory Collective

http://www.paulkingsnorth.net/home.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

maomao
Ian Blair dead
2
Replies
42
Views
957
stavros
S
tim
Starmer boots three more disidents out of the Parliamentary Labour Party.
Replies
7
Views
446
tim
tim
editor
Rebel Botanists become 'street educators' as they chalk out the names of plants on pavements
2
Replies
36
Views
1K
LakieLady
LakieLady
J
Militarization of the Arctic: Britain's role
Replies
7
Views
255
Pickman's model
Pickman's model
Not MrBishi
Who is really in charge of our money?
2 3
Replies
74
Views
2K
editor
editor
Back
Top Bottom