Blade Runner - THE FINAL CUT

[Reno]

Yeah... To be perfectly honest, I've always preferred the goofy voiceover version, it's part of the neo-noir charm IMO... nods to 1950's film noir and the private eye antihero.
Without that narrative voice, the film's flaws are more exposed (i.e. glossy surfaces, not enough depth), whereas harrison ford's voice added a human(ising) element to this whole hyperaesthetic thing

I completely disagree that Blade Runner is a film of just surfaces and that it has no depth. To me it's a superficial reading of the film. I always found Blade Runner tremendously moving and resonant while never sliding into sentimentality. The characters and conflicts are complex and while the film changes the plot and characters of the novel, it stays true to the spirit of Philip K. Dick in its examination of what it means to be human and what it means to be mortal.

I always thought the narration ruined the flying shots through the city, which are my favourite visual moments in the film and also Batty's death scene. For me those moments work so much better with just the music and all the information is there without the overexplanatory VO.

Then again there are quite a few people who do prefer the theatrical version, so it's being released as well.

 

[Reno]

If this is the same technique they used to 'seamlessly' cut superfluous CGI bits into the star wars films for the re-release then I'll be staying well clear of this film

Yes, please stay away from the film.

 

[Dubversion]

i thoroughly enjoyed it - never saw it on a big screen before. It looks wonderful, the additions / revisions improve the movie but there's nothing too radical. Wonderful

 

[Badgers]

This is a personal favourite.

I will be going to see it because it deserves a watch on the big screen.

 

[nino_savatte]

I prefer the original to the Director's Cut. I won't be seeing this version.

I don't know why so many people hate this film. Why the backlash? I guess these are the people who were brought up on stuff like Independence Day.

 

[CyberRose]

So is this only in selected cinemas then? Doesn't seem to on in any of the Leeds cinemas

 

[Badgers]

So is this only in selected cinemas then? Doesn't seem to on in any of the Leeds cinemas

Are the Leeds cinemas now showing the 'talkies' then?

 

[Structaural]

I'm going to see it if it comes out here, man the chance to see it on the big screen mustn't be missed.

 

[danny la rouge]

It's one of the most visually entertaining bits of science fiction ever commited to film There's a dreamilke quality to the whole thing, which is one thing the scriptwriter managed to convey as perfectly as the author did in the book it was based upon. It's a brillant piece of cinematography. It's not perfect, but it is very near to perfect

It looks nice - like the Hovis advert - but it is dull. Who is a replicant and who isn't? - Who cares. I fell asleep the first time I saw it.

 

[mentalchik]

One of my all time top favourite films !

Saw it at the cinema when it came out but would love to see it again !

 

[Detroit City]

One of my all time top favourite films !

mine too....but do we need to bleedin' keep on bringing it up for a quarter century?? it was a relatively well done sci-fi movie for god's sake, and that is ALL IT WAS

 

[mentalchik]

*gives DC a hard stare*


next you'll be saying Dune is just another sci-fi novel.........


tsk

 

[Detroit City]

*gives DC a hard stare*

next you'll be saying Dune is just another sci-fi novel

the book was great the movie sucked dick

 

[mentalchik]

*relaxes eyes*

 

[Detroit City]

*relaxes eyes*

*rolls eyes* :

 

[mentalchik]

Hehehe.....Feyd........metal pants !

 

[Reno]

the book was great the movie sucked dick

I'd still rather watch one of David Lynch's lesser films than a good film by most other directors. For all it's flaws there is much I like about Dune.

 

[Reno]

mine too....but do we need to bleedin' keep on bringing it up for a quarter century?? it was a relatively well done sci-fi movie for god's sake, and that is ALL IT WAS

Why do you join discussion about a subject you claim not to be interested in ?

 

[mentalchik]

I'd still rather watch one of David Lynch's lesser films than a good film by most other directors. For all it's flaws there is much I like about Dune.

Me too, that film suffered a lot in it's making so all in all it wasn't bad considering...........


although i hated watching it with people that didn't know the story well coz i got fed up explaining it !

 

[DotCommunist]

When they changed prana-bindu to just shouting at a gun i was well annoyed 'his name is a killing sound' weak, very weak.

 

[mentalchik]

*looks lovingly at very old and battered copy of Dune*



Have never been able to buy a new copy.....

 

[Detroit City]

*looks lovingly at very old and battered copy of Dune*

is that on 8mm or VHS?

 

[Reno]

Me too, that film suffered a lot in it's making so all in all it wasn't bad considering...........


although i hated watching it with people that didn't know the story well coz i got fed up explaining it !

In never read the book either, I just enjoy Dune for its art direction, atmosphere and for its "Lynchian" touches.

 

[DotCommunist]

*looks lovingly at very old and battered copy of Dune*



Have never been able to buy a new copy.....

Can you remember the Mentat ryhme?

 

[ck]

Is this the shot ?

I've never seen it in any previous version of Blade Runner, only ever stills and it's one of the most discussed additions to the Final Cut.

I saw the final cut and didn't see these two aphex twin dancers in there.

I'd say it is worth seeing ; I'd never seen the film on the big screen , and it looks truly stunning. To say Ridley Scott has done a George Lucas is incorrect ; he hasn't made the film a tele-tubby version of the original at all ; it's simply had a bit of a polish...

 

[stdPikachu]

It's one of the most boring films ever made.

Retire yourself now.

Have to side with Reno on this; if you're looking at Balderunner as a sci-fi action movie IMHO you're completely missing the point. PK Dick was an expert at the interplay between people and realities, and Scott did a sublime piece of work in bringing his vision of it to the big screen. In essence he took a story that revolved around the interplay between the characters, and the moral/philosophical commentary, and built a living, breathing universe around it instead of restricting it to ruinous kipple-filled bedrooms. As a film it's so ridiculously self contained, the contrast between the replicants and the "real" humans is both subtle and outrageous... I find it difficult to undertand how someone can see this film and not have it speak volumes about their own lives and their own philosophy. But then I'm one of those heathens who thinks the film has little to no point if you persist in believing that Deckard isn't a replicant

Who is a replicant and who isn't? - Who cares.

I think you'd be better served by first asking yourself what is a replicant. It's one of the key points of the film, indeed one of the key points PKD was trying to get across about humans and their God-complex.

As an aside, didn't realise there was a cinema release as well. Why the hell isn't the Ritzy showing it after 6.30?!

 

[mentalchik]

is that on 8mm or VHS?

I meant the book you silly!



My copy is about 33years old !

 

[DotCommunist]

I meant the book you silly!



My copy is about 33years old !

Cool. I have seen various different editions, but my oldest is Messiah, which has some wierd artwork of guys going over the desert on platforms with ornithopters in the background. My copy of Children is clearly done by the same dude,it shows the twins running across the desert, ghanima in front. I'd love to se the original Dune that had the art from those two, as all my later stuff and teh original are more recent editions.

Scan and post yer front cover mental, you know you want to. If you do I'll post up a picture of stingin the metal pants FTW

 

[Dubversion]

so an actor in Blade Runner shows up in a later sci-fi thing which also has a replicant style-problem.

Win a biscuit and tell me who

 

[DotCommunist]

so an actor in Blade Runner shows up in a later sci-fi thing which also has a replicant style-problem.

Win a biscuit and tell me who

Battle Star Galactica

Everyone knows that dude (or at least anyone who gives a shit about visual sci fi)


He was origami dude in bladerunner and Adama senior in BSG