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The Black Hand
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Children children. You do not aggravate me at all, your lame 'pisstaking' is sooooo lame it has no legs. It's not funny, its not new, its not clever. What it is, is lazy conservative posting with no politics. You have NOT even answered the politics in my first post, 'that is how lame you are'.
Attica said:
Nonsense, rubbish, garbage and complete and utter trash in every respect. You have simply constructed a straw man when you say that there are those who seek to maintain an abstract differentiation between theory and practice. For is it not totally and unequivocally obvious that *all* theory has practical purport, while equally and by the same token *all* practice has theoretical implications? And thus we see clearly and without any ambiguity whatsoever that no-one, ever, under any circumstances is remotely capable of engaging in non-practical theory or, in the same regard, non-theoretical practice neither. "Praxis" therefore cannot in any sense be defined as the unity of theory and practice, since it is inherently and ontologically impossible to separate the two, and therefore by your foolish and simplistic definition *everything* done by anyone anywhere in the whole world would be "praxis." The term would be all-inclusive and therefore meaningless. And so it would seem that your grasp of "praxis" is hardly as firm as you would have the more naive among us believe would it not?
The Black Hand
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phildwyer said:
No. You have not understood what I have posted. It is clear that you are the confused one.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Attica said:
What it is, is lazy conservative posting with no politics. You have NOT even answered the politics in my first post, 'that is how lame you are'.
Do you not think this reaction is because people actually can't be arsed to engage you? Not people like you, you specifically...
The Black Hand
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Kanda said:
I think it is a reflection of their lack of politics and their true essence coming out.
Attica said:
Au contraire, I beg to differ, and I do believe that you are mistaken. It is clear that confusion sits upon you and you alone. Confusion has in fact made his masterpiece out of your person. Confusion thy name is Attica. Attica and confusion are widely and correctly regarded as all but synonymous in educated circles. Indeed so intimate is their liason that many have been tempted to posit a dialectical interpenetration between the poles of the binary "confusion" and "Attica" so that to all intents and porpoises they can be regarded as mutually definitive and thus in the final analysis ultimately inseparable as far as any kind of *real* political impact is concerned.
The Black Hand
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phildwyer said:
u tork cak cok.
the button
out on the kocker
So, in Hegelian terms, Attica's like a dickhead version of the Beautiful Soul?phildwyer said:
The Black Hand
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Kanda said:I'm just pissed, skittish, no offence. You're the only fuckers posting
Phil is best to engage you, ignore me
Phil cok suk ma
The Black Hand
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the button said:
DOrk - u gota walk the walk rather than spout da shite.
The Black Hand
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Kanda said:You degrade yourself with that response btw
Hey, I do what I like. Like selling a copy of the excellent new magazine MAYDAY to Ed Emry on Sunday
Who wot where when? Those who know may like to know it was at the Historical Materialism conference at SOAS.the button
out on the kocker
-.-. --- -.-. -.-Attica said:Hey, I do what I like. Like selling a copy of the excellent new magazine MAYDAY to Ed Emry on Sunday
Larry O'Hara
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phildwyer said:
funny, I just can't quite see Nelson Mandela in a clown's outfit...
ska invita
back on the other side
In case you actually want to see the magazine - you might be interested in this:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/11/385750.html
scumbalina
Scummy Mummy
Attica said:The contradictions in Limpcok are laughable. First they say they are beyond anarchism, now they are promoting a stereotypical anarchist magazine as the best thing since sliced bread. The old stuff about/by Lucy Parsons and Durti (no matter how excellent in their time) is the stuff of a cult and not a movement relating to everyday life.
Seriously, the picture of Mikal bakunin on the back page was a VIZ LIKE pisstake out of itself that the editors didn't even notice...
<editor: URL removed>
Was that a link to the feedback thread? In which case they're hardly bigging it up, someone (not part of the Libcom lot) asked for feedback and a few people said it looked good. What's the problem?
I fucking hate the attitudes on Libcom, I think it shows a lack of solidar'ty and support for others actions and is really fucking destructive. But you're doing exactly the same Attica, you're always slagging of others efforts whilst constantly bigging up yours (and Lucy Parsons et al). It's exactly the same kind of bullshit that Libcom are guilty of, backstabbing and bitching in the anarchist movement with little concrete, constructive critism/offers of help. Just "if it's not done my way it's crap". Nasty and pisstaking, it leaves a bitter tsate oin the mouth, and a lot of your posts sound like they could have come from the mouthes of some of the most guilty of that kind of approach on Libcom.
Libcom are (or should be) an irrelevence (the collective and their attitudes/issues surroundin them, not the site itself which is very good). Why keep drawing attention to it all, making it all such an issue? It's like playground squabbles, it comes across as fucking bizarre
The Black Hand
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I was drawing attention to blatent and stupid contradictions. No, what I am doing is not the same.
I have constantly argued for public conferences and getting together to resolve issues. Our movement needs more REAL politics not web based stupidity which the youngsters excel in.
If the youngsters persist in avoiding politics they need to be reminded of it constantly, as I have said the point is to improve our movements politics and not avoid it. Limpcok is a convenient arena as I have already said to pretend you are doing something when really you are not, and actually are practicing a new anti democratic tyranny of structureless instead...
I have constantly argued for public conferences and getting together to resolve issues. Our movement needs more REAL politics not web based stupidity which the youngsters excel in.
If the youngsters persist in avoiding politics they need to be reminded of it constantly, as I have said the point is to improve our movements politics and not avoid it. Limpcok is a convenient arena as I have already said to pretend you are doing something when really you are not, and actually are practicing a new anti democratic tyranny of structureless instead...
fantastic thread - even better than I could have dreamed
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Well, I've learnt something.
newbie
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phildwyer said:
woah, slow down there. Praxis is attica's word, he's been using it for months despite many of us freely confessing we've no idea what he's on about. He has developed it from whatever dusty theoretical cupboard he found it in into a more current, more relevant and altogether shinier political process, by his own efforts, renewing tired theory with his own tireless practice.
The trite dexterity of your dismissal cannot stand alone: to have any meaning outside it's own narrow confines surely you should similarly commit to a campaign to bring your own interperetation to the forefront of working class discourse. Theory alone cannot displace more secure foundations.
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